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Old 02-09-2016, 10:17 AM   #61
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The vent?
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:34 AM   #62
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:59 AM   #63
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The bottom line, whether I agree with some of the code or not, im in business to make money, and I get paid for anything I put in....lets visit people skills again....Mr home owner..I put in a cleanout so if it happens again it (should )be easier to clear the pipe, and you might want to think about changing out that old worn trip lever on the tub....makes the home owner feel good and its easier to get them to go for more work...and there are times where cheap and fast is all the owner wants to go for, so its that way or you lose the work, you have to feel out who you are doing work for and what they want to pay, and try and show them if they fix the broken and worn, in the long run they will save both money and aggravation...
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Old 02-09-2016, 11:04 AM   #64
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The 2-90's on the top of the TY there is a clamp, if you look at the first pic it shows the lead drop, he cut the drop and put a Ferncos on it from what I can see, maybe I'm wrong?
those double 90s are the vent and the trap is under the trip lever, its confusing because the pictures where taken from opposite sides of the piping...
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Old 02-10-2016, 04:45 AM   #65
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Wow. I've removed a ton of lead drains. Plumbdrum, I think you may he confused, that old lead tee you see isn't the tee picking up the tub shoe. That lead santee was most likely used to connect an old lead drum trap before it was replaced with that mess that the OP replaced.

We have them all over the place here and that's how old homes were plumbed when lead was used. They still had a brass waste and overflow but it drained into a lead drum trap. The house that the OP worked on looks like it had a lead waste system at one time. That is more common in certain areas.

Usually, the drum trap gets clogged or leaks and the only option is to replace. Here's some photos of a repair I did on a tub in an older pier and beam home that had a lead drum trap. The customer had access made through the floor. The only other way would have been to tunnel. The first photo is of the old drum trap. The second photo is where the new PVC reconnects to cast. Had I the room I would have preferred to remove the brass ferrule at the hub and use a ty-seal. But yeah, this works. And the cleanout is the face plate on the overflow that says "Cleanout".
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I've replaced cast, lead and steel before but I have to ask what that is on top of the cast iron fitting
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Wow. I've removed a ton of lead drains. Plumbdrum, I think you may he confused, that old lead tee you see isn't the tee picking up the tub shoe. That lead santee was most likely used to connect an old lead drum trap before it was replaced with that mess that the OP replaced. We have them all over the place here and that's how old homes were plumbed when lead was used. They still had a brass waste and overflow but it drained into a lead drum trap. The house that the OP worked on looks like it had a lead waste system at one time. That is more common in certain areas. Usually, the drum trap gets clogged or leaks and the only option is to replace. Here's some photos of a repair I did on a tub in an older pier and beam home that had a lead drum trap. The customer had access made through the floor. The only other way would have been to tunnel. The first photo is of the old drum trap. The second photo is where the new PVC reconnects to cast. Had I the room I would have preferred to remove the brass ferrule at the hub and use a ty-seal. But yeah, this works. And the cleanout is the face plate on the overflow that says "Cleanout".
Believe me I am far from confused, I come from the land of lead and drum traps. At least your repair ( except for no CO, lol) looks more professional.
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The best and most fun is when all the lead piping is encased in the deffening ( light weight concrete of yesteryear) between all the beams of a bathroom like 6 inches thick...short of ripping the whole floor out sometimes you cannot even get to it or even see the piping, just water seeping through the concrete.....and then you see the plumbers way back then didnt own drills, they just notched half the floor joist away, guess not too mant building codes back then either..
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Cleanout or not, it doesn't matter the next time there is drain issues the hair will be at the lead that has become squashed from the bottom fernco
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