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Old 02-08-2016, 12:43 PM   #41
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So because a tub , or sink is blocked there is a flooded crawl space? Sounds like you have a bigger problem than a blocked drain. My code requires a CO at base of every stack, and change of direction. Any real PLUMBER would assess what type of piping they are about to snake out to which would require the PLUMBER to possibly crawl under a house, ohhhhh surprise it's a lead drain can't snake it from upstairs but luckily the last PLUMBER was a real smart guy and left a CO on the drain at that brass to cast transition for a proper cleaning. Maybe your code does not account for common sense but mine does. And yes I have climbed under a house to clean out a drain in the past, sometime ya have to work a little bit.
If I get my gloves wet, that's a flood. No way am I going to risk my self over their painted pipes.

I don't mind working a little bit, but a lot? pffft....call the drain guy, that's what I do.
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Old 02-08-2016, 12:48 PM   #42
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Common sense tells me that I am not opening a cleanout in a crawl space below a tub full of water to auger it
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Old 02-08-2016, 02:03 PM   #43
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Question since I've never dealt with lead except for a toilet flange. How did you keep the lead that you tied the pvc onto from collapsing and leaking? Some kind of stiffener like copper or pvc inside the lead before you clamped it down?

In Illinois a "Fernco" is not allowed withing the foundation. Mechanical joints are required, solvent weld, soldered, etc. No hub couplings & adapters are permitted, but not with lead since a stiffener would need to be used and would restrict the ID of the pipe.

I used to utilized DWV copper and either a male or female adapter to make the transition from Lead. The unions in another post look great.

There was a lot of lead around the St. Louis area over the years. Hall plumbers in MO. still need to wipe a joint I am pretty sure. I have seen water service issues with replacement lines and the plumber had to wipe a lead joint co convert to a mechanical fitting at a curb stop.

As far as a clean out, the overflow can be counted as the clean out on a tub or a removable shower grated on a floor or shower drain in Illinois.
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Clean outs under the house! When have you crawled under the house, taken a cap off, ran cord to the now flooded crawlspace, plugged the 120v 3/8 machine that you just dragged 30 feet in total dark, and ran 18" of snake to clear a simple hair stoppage?

I can see a clean out at the begiining of a 3" line, I guess. Did a snake job like that under a house in 1980. J'man was outside feeding the snake and I was guiding it 20' from him. First and last time, tell ya what....
that happened to me on a main line clog back in 76' the jman got tangled in the cable, and never again would I run a drain under house like that

as far as running any drain under a floor never ever !
always run from on top pull the toilet, or run from the roof vent, never under the floor, I did look under the floor to see how the pipes were run
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Common sense tells me that I am not opening a cleanout in a crawl space below a tub full of water to auger it

He never said the tub was blocked , he said it was running slow. If anyone wants to attempt to snake through an ancient waste an overflow through a lead drain have at it.
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Running slow because of the way it was piped and the old lead
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Why not you ask, cause it's too much trouble.

I'd love to see your fix

You wouldn't make the crawlspace to inspect, inspector.

It would have looked a hell of a lot more professional than that, and your right I wouldn't crawl under there. I wouldn't want to get my hands and pants dirty.
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I'll paint my pipes black so it matches the cast.
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He never said the tub was blocked , he said it was running slow. If anyone wants to attempt to snake through an ancient waste an overflow through a lead drain have at it.
then its a great excuse to sell a repipe and get rid of the lead and old junk trip lever...and the clog would probably be resolved with new pipe..
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then its a great excuse to sell a repipe and get rid of the lead and old junk trip lever...and the clog would probably be resolved with new pipe..

You got that right
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