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Old 05-03-2019, 08:35 PM   #1
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Well boys, we are going down the rabbit hole. Today the supply house gave us four cordless expanders and 3 rolls of pex for free. We are switching from fostapex and bronze fittings to expanding pex with plastic fittings on our newcon.


I can't wait to see what happens the second or third time we get a rodent chewing through a pipe.








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Well boys, we are going down the rabbit hole. Today the supply house gave us four cordless expanders and 3 rolls of pex for free. We are switching from fostapex and bronze fittings to expanding pex with plastic fittings on our newcon.


I can't wait to see what happens the second or third time we get a rodent chewing through a pipe.








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A supply house guy was telling me he knew a plumber that would sell the rodent resistant upgrade. He would sleeve 1/2” pex in 3/4” alumaflex and 3/4” pex in 1”
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Well boys, we are going down the rabbit hole. Today the supply house gave us four cordless expanders and 3 rolls of pex for free. We are switching from fostapex and bronze fittings to expanding pex with plastic fittings on our newcon.


I can't wait to see what happens the second or third time we get a rodent chewing through a pipe.








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Here you go, this last fall. Poly B pipe, the mice didn't chew the pipe because they like the taste. They chewed the pipe and the cabinet to go through the cabinet hole.... The mice were having a party in the kids drop ceiling under the kitchen. Mouse poop all over, I could of filled a small bucket. Lots of tunnels inside the fiberglass insulation.

That's where I saw the exterminator bill. Those a$$holes are unscrupulous bandits.
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Here you go, this last fall. Poly B pipe, the mice didn't chew the pipe because they like the taste. They chewed the pipe and the cabinet to go through the cabinet hole.... The mice were having a party in the kids drop ceiling under the kitchen. Mouse poop all over, I could of filled a small bucket. Lots of tunnels inside the fiberglass insulation.

That's where I saw the exterminator bill. Those a$$holes are unscrupulous bandits.

I have had several service calls where the leak was mice holes. Including one at my own house!! Luckily only one of the calls was stuff we put in and that bathroom was supposed to be temporary.









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People do not realize that the mouse baits with the poison de-hydrate the mice while the rodents are dying. That is why they gnaw through the pipes; they are desperately searching for water.

I had a customer who lived in a double-wide MH out in a rural area with livestock and forest all around her place. She threw mouse baits all around. She had {3} water piping leaks. I kept getting called back to make repairs.

I told her to set the old-fashioned style mouse traps, just keep them away from the dogs and other pets.
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People do not realize that the mouse baits with the poison de-hydrate the mice while the rodents are dying. That is why they gnaw through the pipes; they are desperately searching for water.

I had a customer who lived in a double-wide MH out in a rural area with livestock and forest all around her place. She threw mouse baits all around. She had {3} water piping leaks. I kept getting called back to make repairs.

I told her to set the old-fashioned style mouse traps, just keep them away from the dogs and other pets.



At least for my area I have to disagree. All of the mouse holes I have found were from them trying to get by the pipe. I have heard the theory that they hear the water inside but I have yet to see evidence of that.


Granted most of the basements here have other sources of water like leaks in the foundation they wouldn't have to chew for.


I think it's pretty dumb we will be switching to wirsbo pipe. Not that there is anything wrong with it, it's just we have used fostapex for like 6 years now and will still need to carry that stuff on the van for service. We all still have sweat fittings on the vans!!


Propress, sweat, viega, threaded, now wirsbo too?!?! And they have yet to buy us high boy vans!!!!








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People do not realize that the mouse baits with the poison de-hydrate the mice while the rodents are dying. That is why they gnaw through the pipes; they are desperately searching for water.

I had a customer who lived in a double-wide MH out in a rural area with livestock and forest all around her place. She threw mouse baits all around. She had {3} water piping leaks. I kept getting called back to make repairs.

I told her to set the old-fashioned style mouse traps, just keep them away from the dogs and other pets.

I dont think the search for water is the cause for rodent damage to pex....more likely the smell of the pipe....many manufactures of wire for automobiles have started using some plant based material and the rodents love it, so they chew up the wiring in your car like crazy, even the new romex for houses may have this, but not sure..
when I gutted my house upstate it had a mix of romex( made 20 years ago) and the old cloth covered wiring, almost all of the cloth covering was eaten off and bare copper wires were behind the walls, none of the older romex was touched by mice...they eat by smell not sound....
the only thing I have seen munch on romex exposed outdoors are the dam squirrels .....
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I dont think the search for water is the cause for rodent damage to pex....more likely the smell of the pipe....many manufactures of wire for automobiles have started using some plant based material and the rodents love it, so they chew up the wiring in your car like crazy, even the new romex for houses may have this, but not sure..
when I gutted my house upstate it had a mix of romex( made 20 years ago) and the old cloth covered wiring, almost all of the cloth covering was eaten off and bare copper wires were behind the walls, none of the older romex was touched by mice...they eat by smell not sound....
the only thing I have seen munch on romex exposed outdoors are the dam squirrels .....



Maybe they were going after the cloth covering for their nests.






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I dont think they ate it but they chewed the wires clean, found a few that musta made contact between the hot and neutral..crispy critters..
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I dont think the search for water is the cause for rodent damage to pex....more likely the smell of the pipe....many manufactures of wire for automobiles have started using some plant based material and the rodents love it, so they chew up the wiring in your car like crazy, even the new romex for houses may have this, but not sure..
when I gutted my house upstate it had a mix of romex( made 20 years ago) and the old cloth covered wiring, almost all of the cloth covering was eaten off and bare copper wires were behind the walls, none of the older romex was touched by mice...they eat by smell not sound....
the only thing I have seen munch on romex exposed outdoors are the dam squirrels .....
Since this is a thread drift now, here’s a picture of 24 volt air conditioning condenser wires the little *******s chewed through. You can see the teeth marks in the copper.
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