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Old 08-26-2015, 06:37 PM   #11
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Well looks like service calls for homeowner installed rinnais just doubled
Nice job bolting it to the wall..
Everything else gets ripped out...



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Old 08-26-2015, 07:43 PM   #12
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Nice job bolting it to the wall..
Everything else gets ripped out...
I can just hear it now "how much to make it right? that's more than I paid for the heater!"
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I dropped Rinnai last year due to the fact that they were allowing a local Propane Co. to be a stocking dealer & installer with no licensed plumber in the company. Also, they were providing & installing the units for less than I could purchase the units from my supplier!
Their customer's were signing an agreement for a guarantee to use only them for LP to get them installed for cheap. I complained to Rinnai in person as their HQ is 10 miles from me and they basically said too bad. I now only install Navien's which I believe to be far superior to Rinnai's!
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Old 08-27-2015, 01:36 PM   #14
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My experience with DIY's is this is going to be a big fubar, they have no ideal about gas, or vent sizing and just think you can take out a tank heater and slap
a tankless in it's place under size gas and vent and then they wonder why it doe's not work right if at all
and I just pray that they don't die of carbon monoxide poisoning

I just had a person call me because a handy man had installed a gas water heater in place of a power vented one... It worked well for about a week then they noticed a smell in the home and the plastic chimmney was beginning to melt and warp......

I told them it was all screwed up and unsafe...and I really wanted them to send me some pictures of the abortion so I could post them on this site... but when they heard my price for a bradford power vent they ran away like scared deers......

This Rannni deal in LOWES will probably get a few people killed or at the very least they will tie in the vent into a double walled chimmney and burn down the home....

If Ranni does not do their homework, and state specifically on every box that it needs to be installed by a liscensed plumber they will eventually get the pants sued off of them......
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I am of the opinion that these tank less are the best thing that has happened to plumbers as far as guarantying future work and a bad thing for consumers due to energy costs and inefficiency for heating water. My son had one of these tank less water heaters installed in his garage and it took 2 minutes and 33 seconds for hot water to reach the farthest fixture which was approximately 55 feet away. Too much water wasted. Also they are too complicated and require cleaning with vinegar and flushing often with our water quality. In short, a disappointment.
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Navien"s have an internal recirc pump that works good even without a dedicated return pipe. Fortunately for me we have soft water here so flushing has never been an issue & I have been installing Tankless for 13 years. I would rather pay for a flush over having a flooded home from a tank rupture! Our idiot builders here love putting HWT in attics?
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Man , just lost respect for rinnai. They must be going through hard times.
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Man , just lost respect for rinnai. They must be going through hard times.
They have just become the Whirlpool of tankless water heaters.
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No because remember it has to be install by a professional plumber. We all know we all follow instructions
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No because remember it has to be install by a professional plumber. We all know we all follow instructions
Evan the tank heaters that are only "supposed" to be installed by professional
plumbers like A O Smith and Bradford White but still seem to fall into the hands
of DIY'ers
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