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Old 09-12-2019, 09:33 AM   #31
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This area is very seasonal..... keep that in mind
Yes very seasonal but if I remember correctly they did a job for the mother in law and she was charged over 6000$ for 1 day of work. I can't say how much materials or equipment was installed but 6000$ that's something to look into.
You can do the same in plumbing excavation. I can tell you I've done plenty of digs for $6,000+ and finished in one day. And we're very far from the most expensive.

One of the plumbers I used to work with told me he did a job last week, as a subcontractor, for another company where they charged $9,000. He finished in 1 day. The funny thing is his company had quoted that same customer $3,000 just 2 weeks prior and the homeowner ended up choosing a company that charged 3 times as much only to have him do the work anyway.
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Old 09-12-2019, 09:50 AM   #32
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You can do the same in plumbing excavation. I can tell you I've done plenty of digs for $6,000+ and finished in one day. And we're very far from the most expensive.

One of the plumbers I used to work with told me he did a job last week, as a subcontractor, for another company where they charged $9,000. He finished in 1 day. The funny thing is his company had quoted that same customer $3,000 just 2 weeks prior and the homeowner ended up choosing a company that charged 3 times as much only to have him do the work anyway.
I've never done that so tell me do you need a helper? What about the city connection either sewer or water? What about trying to connect to the pipe that's going under the footing and the pipe crumbles, then you have to break concrete inside the house?

Do you have any pictures of those type of jobs?
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You can do the same in plumbing excavation. I can tell you I've done plenty of digs for $6,000+ and finished in one day. And we're very far from the most expensive.

One of the plumbers I used to work with told me he did a job last week, as a subcontractor, for another company where they charged $9,000. He finished in 1 day. The funny thing is his company had quoted that same customer $3,000 just 2 weeks prior and the homeowner ended up choosing a company that charged 3 times as much only to have him do the work anyway.
I've never done that so tell me do you need a helper? What about the city connection either sewer or water? What about trying to connect to the pipe that's going under the footing and the pipe crumbles, then you have to break concrete inside the house?

Do you have any pictures of those type of jobs?
There are many variables in underground work. I've done the work on my own, with my brother or hired a company to dig for me. I don't own my own backhoe (yet) so it usually makes more sense for me to subcontract that part out and I take care of the hook up and testing. Some of the spot repairs we just hand dig.

I don't do jobs where we have to hook up sewer to the city connection since the tap is usually in the road. I give those to a friend of mine. I do water service replacement from the meter to the house though.

As far as pipe crumbling, I make sure the homeowner is aware that is a possibility. I explain to them that if it corroded in one spot the rest of the line is the same age and may be in similar condition and the scope of work may change. I give them a price for replacing the section that's bad, as confirmed with my video inspection, plus what each additional foot would cost if needed.

I will see if I have any more pictures on my phone. Usually my hands are too dirty to take my phone out while I'm in a trench so I don't take many.
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Old 09-12-2019, 01:37 PM   #34
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For the love of Jesus Christ....OKAY.... you sound like a blind squirrel looking for nuts.......



my nitch is Water heaters and water softeners.....has been this way since about 1995...



This nitch is Very easy to me anyway....and its a hell of a lot better than getting into pipe bursting or fooling around in mud all day long.........



I am doing 2 heaters today so far....





My BEST nitch and the most important one that has made all the other nitches work out 1000% better is plastering advertisement STICKERS into every home I walk into and on everything I get nearby....no matter what I am doing there....



If you would have done this since you started years ago, you would probably have your name in more than half the homes in your town and general area... and you would have already built up a very huge number of clients by now.....



So How many homes you going into today?? So what is stopping you from starting to do this ??? The numbers begin to add up quickly and you realize that it is the best Nitch of them all....



good luck and dont forget to answer the phone.



Yep I'm a blind squirrel. Don't put too much in to it. I was just curious and it was nothing more than an equivalent to asking if you knew of a good movie that might be worth watching.

You must not have paid attention to what I have written.
You wrote "If you would have done this since you started years ago, you would probably have your name in more than half the homes in your town and general area... and you would have already built up a very huge number of clients by now....."

I clearly stated that I was curious for SOME DAY WHEN A START MY OWN COMPANY. It should be within the next half a year I'm thinking.

Now for sticker. I was actually planing on doing that when that time comes.

For answering the phone. I would never let the phone go unanswered. I would at the least ask for a name and number and tell them I would call back as soon as I was done with the current job.

I probably will be better at business than my current boss. As he on the phone let's people pay what they think is fair if they complain about price and when I first started working for him he almost lost $45.000 because he had not been careful and gotten payments along the way after ground work, rough in and finish.

Can a guy not be curious and want to learn about other things he might not yet know about without others putting too much meaning in to it?

Oh well it seems this time I was not able to communicate well enough what I was asking for.

I got a few good business advises that I already knew about and thought to be basic obvious things.
I'm sorry for wasting your time but I thought I could get an interesting conversation going.

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Don't worry about Mark, he may sound harsh but that's the kind of guy I liked to hang with on jobs. They have a lot of knowledge and their advice is priceless. You'll get used to it and even enjoy it.

These types of guys would turn around a foreman or boss with their tail between their legs.

Dane, I thought you likes salty licorice? ( It's a joke)
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Don't worry about Mark, he may sound harsh but that's the kind of guy I liked to hang with on jobs. They have a lot of knowledge and their advice is priceless. You'll get used to it and even enjoy it.



These types of guys would turn around a foreman or boss with their tail between their legs.



Dane, I thought you likes salty licorice? ( It's a joke)
I sure do love my salty licorice.
I didn't mind master marks comment I was just surprised that my thread went a completely different direction than I intended it to.

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I sure do love my salty licorice.
I didn't mind master marks comment I was just surprised that my thread went a completely different direction than I intended it to.

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That's how all threads go, trying to walk in a straight line with a blindfold.

You won't always get an exact answer. You have to take it all in and take a little bit of everything of the recipe to make a dish.

You also have to consider they might not tell you their secret ingredient of success.
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I would think a small town plumber niche should be visibility. You want everything. Tools that come to mind are camera/locator/transmitter, maybe a gas manometer?

Education to prepare you for unusual situations...... Lift stations, trenchless, tankless, backflow, med gas................

Advertise whole house filtration, tankless, Water cops............
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I sure do love my salty licorice.
I didn't mind master marks comment I was just surprised that my thread went a completely different direction than I intended it to.

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why focus on a niche now?? start your own business and do good work in all the plumbing areas, in time that " niche " might find you all on its own, but now is not the time, you have lots to focus on to starting and maintaining a successful business on its own...and not to be side tracked on what may or may not happen..
yes its a good idea to brain storm but it sounds like you have the blinders on and are looking into just a small portion of the market out there..
do you have any local business groups by you? if so join and see what other businesses are out there and you can ask other businesses what they have done in the past and what they are doing now..
I can tell you almost everything plumbing is starting to have computer and electronics connected to them, so maybe getting training on that from the manufacture and getting to be a certified repair tech would help get you recommended for all those tankless and boilers with more wiring than piping...
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why focus on a niche now?? start your own business and do good work in all the plumbing areas, in time that " niche " might find you all on its own, but now is not the time, you have lots to focus on to starting and maintaining a successful business on its own...and not to be side tracked on what may or may not happen..
yes its a good idea to brain storm but it sounds like you have the blinders on and are looking into just a small portion of the market out there..
do you have any local business groups by you? if so join and see what other businesses are out there and you can ask other businesses what they have done in the past and what they are doing now..
I can tell you almost everything plumbing is starting to have computer and electronics connected to them, so maybe getting training on that from the manufacture and getting to be a certified repair tech would help get you recommended for all those tankless and boilers with more wiring than piping...
Again I am actually not at all focusing on a niche to begin with. I was just curious to learn about some of them out there that I don't know about so that with time I might better have an idea of what could and could not be worth looking in to.

For business groups I believe there was 2 that might be worth looking in to but it is a while ago that I looked. I was planing on looking in to business groups more soon but have not gotten around to it yet.

For becoming a certified repair tech for a tankless heater company. I actually a while back looked in to taking a class from Navien as I have installed a couple of them and for what I know i think it's one of the better ones. I also don't know if there is actually anyone around here who knows how to trouble shoot them except for following phone support directions. The problem with that is that it is a maybe 3 day class and cost a bit of money so I have not been interested in that while working for someone else but they do give you a repair kit with parts that is worth about the same as the class so I might look into that some day.

For having blinders on and looking into only a small portion of the market. Again no not at all. I'm going to focus on getting my name out there by doing normal and good work and building a customer base by networking.

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