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Old 12-17-2019, 08:29 PM   #31
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started what???

I thank god I live in a the USA where you are not bound and gagged by red tape ..... It amazes me that in Canada anyone can go to lowes and buy anything from water heaters to breaker boxes and do the work themselves from start to finish .... even if they do not know their asses from a hole in the ground

but supposedly someone like Tango who has basic all around knowledge cannot touch or repair an electric heater without getting into trouble for it.....

seems like a double standard to me.....





You're damn right it's a double standard. The ministry loves to fine contractors but they don't fine home owners. Did you know a home owner who renovates his bathroom and hires each trade individually needs a owner's GC licence. They are supposed to carry workman's comp and register his contractors and many things. Those who build their own house need the same licence.

The ministry turns a blind eye on them even that when I followed my courses the teacher told us a home owner did just that hired each trade for a major reno without licencing and acting as a GC, a guy broke a leg or something well the ministry did nothing. If it would of been a contractor though, he'd be in deep $hit from several sources.


It's too easy to file a complaint and they have a justice department with lawyers sharpening their knives preying on contractors. It's their full time job! At the hearing there was another contractor who was up on charges because he and his employees hooked up a furnace when they replaced an old unit and reconnected the wires. A competitor who hated him had filed the complaint and turned him in. He was facing those same 4 judges for the disciplinary action that would surely come with a fine from the pipe mechanics and criminal charges along with a hefty fine from the electrician's association for not having a Master Electrician licence.

Poor bas tard who replaces a gas boiler, he better carry a whole deck of licences.
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Old 12-17-2019, 08:51 PM   #32
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Remember language.

Our State does not have requirement for certification to do any electrical work. Some communities do. If they do they must provide testing or recognize other certificating facilities.



Pussy is just short for pussy cat. Calling some one a pussy is just another way of calling them a scaredy cat.


It can also be a euphemism for vagina.


I for one, am just fine with the presence of pussy on this site, feline or otherwise










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Old 12-18-2019, 11:41 AM   #33
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Pussy is just short for pussy cat. Calling some one a pussy is just another way of calling them a scaredy cat.


It can also be a euphemism for vagina.


I for one, am just fine with the presence of pussy on this site, feline or otherwise










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I agree. Does poltical correctness have to come here too? One of the reasons I come here is because guys can talk like we do in real life, more or less. The software aleady takes care of the real swears.
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Old 12-18-2019, 11:52 AM   #34
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You're damn right it's a double standard. The ministry loves to fine contractors but they don't fine home owners.
We have the same thing in some parts of the US too. The state boards have no juristiction over homeowners and handymen, so they go unregulated. They have no licenses to take, yet we do something minor which is seen as not covered by our license, and we could face consequences. No one ever said life is fair.

The supply house restrictions only go so far, and that security is only as good as the mood of the $16 an hour kid at the counter. I've seen laborers who pick up supplies under their boss's license all the time, without question. They are known by sight by the counter staff, who soon forget if they are a laborer or a master. The guy comes in on Saturday to pick up supplies for a side job, and pays for it out of pocket. They don't even think to ask for his license. They see him every day and know that he's in the trade somehow, so that's enough.
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Old 12-18-2019, 12:26 PM   #35
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the bottom line for enforcement equals revenue $$$$$...the hack or home owner usually has nothing to go after or take away to make them pay fines, so they are mostly left alone..but the person in business with licenses and insurance are prime target for enforcement/ revenue.....so they get fined for not doing it 100% by the book...
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We have the same thing in some parts of the US too. The state boards have no juristiction over homeowners and handymen, so they go unregulated. They have no licenses to take, yet we do something minor which is seen as not covered by our license, and we could face consequences. No one ever said life is fair.

The supply house restrictions only go so far, and that security is only as good as the mood of the $16 an hour kid at the counter. I've seen laborers who pick up supplies under their boss's license all the time, without question. They are known by sight by the counter staff, who soon forget if they are a laborer or a master. The guy comes in on Saturday to pick up supplies for a side job, and pays for it out of pocket. They don't even think to ask for his license. They see him every day and know that he's in the trade somehow, so that's enough.

In my province all company trucks have to have their licence number on them except plumbers or electrician (We need to put the logo on instead). You would be amazed all those unlettered trucks that go to the supply house. I think they sell more plumbing and electrical stuff to hacks and GC who illegally do their own plumbing.

I think unlettered trucks outnumber 10 : 1
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I agree. Does poltical correctness have to come here too? One of the reasons I come here is because guys can talk like we do in real life, more or less. The software aleady takes care of the real swears.
Yes...I refrain a lot from speaking my mind in this place. I often times use synonyms instead.
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I agree. Does poltical correctness have to come here too? One of the reasons I come here is because guys can talk like we do in real life, more or less. The software aleady takes care of the real swears.




My issue with @GAN telling him to remember his language and not say "pu$$ies" is that he wasn't being mean to anyone. A pussy can be a term for someone who is too scared to do something. Yes it refers to women being less likely to perform an action because of femininity but that isn't an insult, it's a reality. Men and women are, and should be, equals in our society. But there's a reason women don't do "man stuff" anywhere near as often as men do.


Banning a word does nothing to stop the issue of people being mean to others. They just learn to keep their mean opinions to themselves when around certain people and often fortifies their poor thoughts.



If you tell someone they shouldn't be sexist they will fight you. Explain why what they said was wrong and you'll make a positive difference.



I would love for women to be plumbers, riflemen, garbage collectors, etc..., but they don't want to and that is fine and that is why it's a stereotype. That's what a fricken stereotype is!!!!! A stereotype is not an insult, it's just a common set of characteristics pertaining to a group.


Yes some people will use stereotypes to insult others but that doesn't mean we should ban all stereotypes!


I don't care who you are or what your background, if you really are just making a joke to be funny, whether it's funny or not to others, you shouldn't be persecuted for not being a comedic genius. Just because someone is "offended" by a joke I make does not mean I was telling that joke to be offensive.












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I know a few women that are plumbers and they are great...

They have good attention to detail.. they both smaller in stature so they can fit into those tight spots... they are good at what they do in the trade..

However they aren't expected to lug around huge sewer machines or lengths of cast piping..

The one plumber works for us and she is incredibly tough.. I've seen her do some great feats of strength for someone weighing 125lbs..

She is great help for getting in spots that are harder for me and majority of other guys to get into..

Her work is very neat clean and professional and she is an asset to our company... I like working with her but very rarely get the chance to..

I also know another women who is an elevator mechanic and incredibly beautiful.. every time I see her covered in grease and does all the hard work elevator rebuilds huge motors and such..

When I went to school had a women in our class.. probably best plumber there shes an unionized industrial plumber and can cut and thread faster than anyone I've ever seen and perfect fits.. she was done her projects for 2 months in 3 days..

I dont think I GAN was offended I just think he wants to keep the forum professional and we should act like professionals... no trash talking trucker mouthing..

Now dont get me wrong I swear constantly but I try to minimize it because we should really to use more descriptive vocabulary than cussing and slurs
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