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Old 12-25-2019, 07:36 PM   #21
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explain the red quote in some detail on how thats not a scam...



I forgot one word, I meant even if they don't need it done NOW.


If someone just bought a house and the cast iron is post war crap that is pretty rough chances are they'll need to replace it in the next 10-15 years. For a house they plan to spend 30-40 years in they should really replace it now. Every time that cast iron clogs again and I have to snake it is another chunk of change out of their pocket. Labor and material prices will only rise over the next 10-15 years.


Waiting 10 years to replace that cast iron only costs them more money. If they are in a good position now they should do it. Should they wait 10 years until they have one or two kids and a car payment or two? Should they wait for it to fail suddenly?




Even if they are financially fine 10 years from now and can handle a sudden large cost replacing it now would still save them the cost of it clogging and having to be snaked a couple times.


















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Old 12-25-2019, 07:38 PM   #22
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It's also important to note that wer don't do excavation and we most likely would not be a part of the replacement. So even if you think I am selling them something they don't need we are not benefiting. No we don't get kick backs either.








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Old 12-25-2019, 11:12 PM   #23
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I forgot one word, I meant even if they don't need it done NOW.


If someone just bought a house and the cast iron is post war crap that is pretty rough chances are they'll need to replace it in the next 10-15 years. For a house they plan to spend 30-40 years in they should really replace it now. Every time that cast iron clogs again and I have to snake it is another chunk of change out of their pocket. Labor and material prices will only rise over the next 10-15 years.


Waiting 10 years to replace that cast iron only costs them more money. If they are in a good position now they should do it. Should they wait 10 years until they have one or two kids and a car payment or two? Should they wait for it to fail suddenly?




Even if they are financially fine 10 years from now and can handle a sudden large cost replacing it now would still save them the cost of it clogging and having to be snaked a couple times.


















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see, you just explained the need to replace the pipe now , if it is constantly needing cleaning, so there is a problem NOW..you keep saying if the pipe needs nothing now but maybe in 10 years it will need replacing..I dont agree with you there, but if unique situations there could be a good reason to replace good pipe now...but thats not too often..
but again if the person has big $$$ and wants to upgrade then great, or wants new pipe so they know its 50 years problem free then great again....
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Old 12-26-2019, 12:31 AM   #24
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see, you just explained the need to replace the pipe now , if it is constantly needing cleaning, so there is a problem NOW..you keep saying if the pipe needs nothing now but maybe in 10 years it will need replacing..I dont agree with you there, but if unique situations there could be a good reason to replace good pipe now...but thats not too often..
but again if the person has big $$$ and wants to upgrade then great, or wants new pipe so they know its 50 years problem free then great again....



Different people have different interpretations of this. I have a woman, who just yesterday had to have us snake her main. I have done this two other times this year. Over the past five years it has need snaking more frequently. She even had to have her galvanized main water line dug and replaced yet didn't want to have them do the waste line while they were there. Also, there is another seasonal house behind her that ties in and they pay half the bills for this waste line. The seasonal owners have deep pockets, are barely there, and couldn't care less what happens they will pay their share. She still refuses to replace the line.



I have some customers who have an issue once after 30 trouble free years and decide to replace the line even though they'll be moving out within a couple years.


Then you have the ahole who has to have his line snaked twice a year for the past 4 years because of roots and doesn't say a thing to the new home owner he sold it to who couldn't be a nicer person. The new home owner replaced the waste line and the water line preventatively. The lines are 30' apart and she got almost no discount.




My point is this, if a rough cast line gets clogged once every couple years because of say a belly in the line from a bad lead joint does it NEED to be replaced? I would argue no. Should it be replaced? That is a tougher question. Will there be a benefit to replacing it now instead of 10-15 years from now when it rots out at the belly? YES. That benefit may only be 500-1000$ but it is still more money in the customers pocket. And perhaps more importantly, that much less unplanned stress from sewage backing up in the house.





I would consider that "upselling". I would not consider that to be unethical even if many would say they don't NEED the new line.











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This is hilarious, clearly master mark doesn't understand that this is you and that you're referring to what shady guys do as a scam not you.


Or he is making a deadpan joke and the other guys don't get it.


Either way this is a giggle. I can't stand the "Duct cleaning" scammers. Not so much because they rob people blind but because then people know it's a thing and I sometimes get sent to duct clean!!! I frickin hate duct cleaning!!!!!

























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sorry, it flew over my head... I lost my patience in this guy and just shut it down before I got the joke...


sooo sorry charlie.....
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sorry, it flew over my head... I lost my patience in this guy and just shut it down before I got the joke...


sooo sorry charlie.....
I was worried you might hit him with your 440 channel locks lololololo
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