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Old 06-14-2016, 01:20 PM   #11
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Here in the D.C./Metro area, those wages would be paltry, good techs in the trades can make $75-100K/yr. Personally, with over 40 yrs. of experience under my belt, I wouldn't get out of bed for $25/hr... Nothing personal.
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Old 06-14-2016, 03:48 PM   #12
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A good service plumber should be making a minimum of $40 per hour. $1600 week, $83,000 yr.

Let's face it, being a service plumber isn't much fun. We do it for the money.


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Here in the D.C./Metro area, those wages would be paltry, good techs in the trades can make $75-100K/yr. Personally, with over 40 yrs. of experience under my belt, I wouldn't get out of bed for $25/hr... Nothing personal.
Thanks for responding! This is what I am wanting to know. Techs that have experience on the level you are talking about would be making low to mid 70s before calculating bonuses which would total between 75k & 80K for the year. This is on a 40 hour week, Monday through Friday. So I am thinking this is close to what is being offered where you are? I am curious if you don't mind replying - are these ranges of salary you see people are getting in your area based on a commission type pay model or hourly? Is that salary range based on a 40 hour work week or is there a lot of overtime factored in on average? Also, have you worked both a commission & hourly type pay model in your experience? What do you like better and why?

I don't take anything personal, you are telling me exactly what I am looking to find out. Thanks!
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Here in the D.C./Metro area, those wages would be paltry, good techs in the trades can make $75-100K/yr. Personally, with over 40 yrs. of experience under my belt, I wouldn't get out of bed for $25/hr... Nothing personal.
That's a commission scale. After 40+ years, I wouldn't work commission. If the company isn't busy enough to pay me hourly plus benefits, they aren't worthy of me.

Of course, if they hired me, they'd be all sorts of stupid. I've worked for myself 4 times longer than I've been employed, so to say I'm a competitor is an understatement.

But..............as a tradesman first and an egoist second, I'm highly employable. Weird employee model, innit. The trades have employees that really don't need employers, but for most of us, they're a evil necessity.
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That's a commission scale. After 40+ years, I wouldn't work commission. If the company isn't busy enough to pay me hourly plus benefits, they aren't worthy of me.

Of course, if they hired me, they'd be all sorts of stupid. I've worked for myself 4 times longer than I've been employed, so to say I'm a competitor is an understatement.

But..............as a tradesman first and an egoist second, I'm highly employable. Weird employee model, innit. The trades have employees that really don't need employers, but for most of us, they're a evil necessity.
No my friend, that is salary in this area. Contractors are billing between
$100-$195/hr., depending on the trade, depending on if the contractor is union or not. Some pay additional compensation on upsales. Higher end of the scale is for good commercial HVAC techs. By contrast, a college grad with an IT degree, with the right certs, can START out of college at $100-$125K/yr. I grew up in my dad's biz, came down here to The Big City 18 yrs. ago, ran my own for 11 yrs. Some appreciate my brutal honesty, some loathe it.
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No my friend, that is salary in this area. Contractors are billing between
$100-$195/hr., depending on the trade, depending on if the contractor is union or not. Some pay additional compensation on upsales. Higher end of the scale is for good commercial HVAC techs. By contrast, a college grad with an IT degree, with the right certs, can START out of college at $100-$125K/yr. I grew up in my dad's biz, came down here to The Big City 18 yrs. ago, ran my own for 11 yrs. Some appreciate my brutal honesty, some loathe it.
Okay, son, you mistyped then. When speaking of hourly, the standard is to state the hourly range. So, your $75k-$100k range should read $36.00-$48.00 per hour. Of course, that is for 10+ years of proven experience with the right credentials.

I been saying that if I were starting out, I'd be looking at other options like IT. Even here in hillbilly land, I've got customers telecommuting their IT work and pulling down enough to hire me all day long.

And yeah---June is a slow time here.
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About what I pay my top plumbers. They average about a $1000 a month in sales and performance bonuses so well into the $90's plus benefits.
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Okay, son, you mistyped then. When speaking of hourly, the standard is to state the hourly range. So, your $75k-$100k range should read $36.00-$48.00 per hour. Of course, that is for 10+ years of proven experience with the right credentials.

I been saying that if I were starting out, I'd be looking at other options like IT. Even here in hillbilly land, I've got customers telecommuting their IT work and pulling down enough to hire me all day long.

And yeah---June is a slow time here.
Ok "son"... I would bet even money you are a lot younger than I, "son".. I've got almost 45 yrs. experience under my belt. I did not mistype.. What "standard" is there as far as referring to stating salary exists, and defined by who? And, BTW, I work in one of the top 5 areas in the country as far as median family income is concerned, $112K/yr. Go figure that one on an hourly basis.
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Ok "son"... I would bet even money you are a lot younger than I, "son".. I've got almost 45 yrs. experience under my belt. I did not mistype.. What "standard" is there as far as referring to stating salary exists, and defined by who? And, BTW, I work in one of the top 5 areas in the country as far as median family income is concerned, $112K/yr. Go figure that one on an hourly basis.
Son, son, son, didn't daddy ever tell you that the world doesn't spin around you? it is just a term, a word. That's all.

Nah, never seen a hourly employee being quoted an annual rate. Annual rates are reserved for salaried employees or commission sales. So which is it?

Annual household income numbers never impress me. That number combines all the incomes at an address. So your $112k divided by the 6 residents is paltry. Besides, I bet those 6 are gay hookers servicing senators. I couldn't imagine a worse city to work in than the DC metro area.
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