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Old 11-06-2018, 11:24 AM   #11
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Those books are cool, but I can't count on my supplier to always have the same brand of fittings. It probably gets me just close enough to have the fitting in hand (which I have to do anyway) and use my tape to measure the take-off (gotta have a tape anyway to measure the length of pipe anyway) and probably done in a similar amount of time as pulling out the book and looking up the fitting.

I guess the 45 is a bit tricker, but I think there was a discussion about that in another thread You get accustomed to eyeballing those over time and you get pretty good at it.
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Old 11-07-2018, 08:58 PM   #12
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Those books are cool, but I can't count on my supplier to always have the same brand of fittings. It probably gets me just close enough to have the fitting in hand (which I have to do anyway) and use my tape to measure the take-off (gotta have a tape anyway to measure the length of pipe anyway) and probably done in a similar amount of time as pulling out the book and looking up the fitting.

I guess the 45 is a bit tricker, but I think there was a discussion about that in another thread You get accustomed to eyeballing those over time and you get pretty good at it.
Dwv fittings are pretty standardized. Charlotte takoffs will work. Most supply houses carry the same brand of fittings over time as they are dealers for said brand.
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Dwv fittings are pretty standardized. Charlotte takoffs will work. Most supply houses carry the same brand of fittings over time as they are dealers for said brand.
I have actually found that they carried a different brand of 1-1/2" ABS Street 1/8 bend that absolutely would not go into the other brand of fitting dry, and when you glue the sucker you better have it lined up where you want because it WILL NOT rotate.

I stopped using them for about 2 months. When we finally got to the bottom of the box and there was a dozen or so left I only used them for under sink offsets because the only fitting that went on them semi smooth was the trap adapters.

I agree they should be pretty standardized, but that was ridiculous. Maybe just a bad batch. I realize this has nothing to do with take-offs, but it seemed relevant.
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I guess the 45 is a bit tricker, but I think there was a discussion about that in another thread You get accustomed to eyeballing those over time and you get pretty good at it.
I remember working on an Olympic swimming pool and this guy with 30 years experience as a 4th year apprentice with his 1st year holding a 14" PVC 45 on top of his head with outstretched arms telling to the other to measure in between.

Damn that was funny. 30 years as a plumber and he couldn't figure out 1.41. No wonder he couldn't pass his journeyman exam. What's even funnier those fitting were like 1500$ each.
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I remember working on an Olympic swimming pool and this guy with 30 years experience as a 4th year apprentice with his 1st year holding a 14" PVC 45 on top of his head with outstretched arms telling to the other to measure in between.

Damn that was funny. 30 years as a plumber and he couldn't figure out 1.41. No wonder he couldn't pass his journeyman exam. What's even funnier those fitting were like 1500$ each.
When I was going through the apprenticeship there was a guy that was a "5th period" so 2.5 years worth of experience in the apprenticeship, but he had been an apprentice for 7 years or so.

He came to class one night and enlightened us all that when you are gluing up a solvent weld p-trap you can use the outlet side of the "U bend to get a measurement for the trap arm. Something he should have already been able to do long before I started the apprenticeship. It wasn't news to anybody in the room.

One night we went to a job site just for fun, which in hindsight was probably illegal AF, since we were actually working on the teacher's project. (I never picked up a tool. I'm here to learn not to help you out with your job). Anyway, i'm watching this guy struggling with soldering a stub out onto a piece of copper that's coming from overhead. The fitting kept dropping off the pipe. I told him to heat the pipe a little first so it expands in the fitting and it won't drop out, then solder like normal but do it quickly.

I guess some of those guys didn't spend much time around a torch or maybe had bad bosses that didn't give them these kinds of pointers to help them be more efficient. Why wouldn't you?
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