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Old 07-19-2017, 08:36 PM   #1
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I am constantly being asked about electric tankless water heaters... usually .versus a 85 gallon rheem Marathon Electric heater....

Has anyone actually ever installed an electric tankless water heater that really worked properly and performed ??? Is there anything on the market that actually would perform and put out hot water as good as an 80 electric???

I talked to a customer last night around 9.45 when his 80 electric heater blew out and flooded the basement... I talked him into a 75 gal Marathon lifetime electric unit ...sent him some pictures and told him that The price was gonna be about 1900 which is less than many others charge.. At that time he wanted it done that evening.....no way its gonna happen.

.So I get going early this morning because I had to get a 40 gas installed fast and then come back to town to do the 75 electric.. Anyway I call the guy to confirm everything around 10am and he has done some "research on google " and thinks he would rather get a tankless electric. from Lowes and get it installed by their installers.....

Ok, I dont even waste my time attempting to talk him out of this because they are already convinced its a better deal to install a little box on the wall and wire it up to the existing 220 and and will take care of their needs..better than their old 80 gallon heater will do.

It was a hot day and I had other calls to do anyway so I just kept my mouth shut and let this guy stick it in his own ass...

Now I wonder how long it will take before they pitch that junk out the door....

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Old 07-19-2017, 08:48 PM   #2
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We will only install point of use emax units. Anything close to supplying 5 gpm in Tennessee temps takes 4 poles at 240/220

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Love it when people "research" plumbing!

Anything more complicated than a 1/2" copper coupling from any of those box stores is junk to begin with. Probably won't even flush it.

That's exactly what my Master would do other than answer or return a phone call after 5pm.

I don't care for on demand heaters, but that said, I've only installed one and repaired three, so I guess my opinion on them is less than informed.
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Every time I researched one for a customer they never had enough power to meet the demand of hot water they needed, installed plenty of small Emax they are junk.
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When I was asking my Fergusons rep about them a couple years ago he said "before you order one make sure there's enough power first, we get so many returned when the contractor realizes the homeowners need a panel upgrade to run it". He saved me a special order restock fee. If the panel can handle it they probably need to run 4 gauge wire at least.
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When I was asking my Fergusons rep about them a couple years ago he said "before you order one make sure there's enough power first, we get so many returned when the contractor realizes the homeowners need a panel upgrade to run it". He saved me a special order restock fee. If the panel can handle it they probably need to run 4 gauge wire at least.
Yes, that's the poles I mentioned. 4 poles is like 4 standard tanked water heater runs. I've seen some call for six poles.

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When I was asking my Fergusons rep about them a couple years ago he said "before you order one make sure there's enough power first, we get so many returned when the contractor realizes the homeowners need a panel upgrade to run it". He saved me a special order restock fee. If the panel can handle it they probably need to run 4 gauge wire at least.


I am sure they saw something real cheap down at lowes and threw it in themselves today and wired that puppy up to their 220v breaker..... or got some dumbass handy man to rig the thing up....


They saw on u-tube how great those things were and how easy it was to install themselves and they knew I was trying to cheat them so
they showed me

Hope they dont burn down their house......


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Another local plumber installed a huge emax at a house, was just supposed to feed their jacuzzi tub, too big of a heater, drained their power supply, she sued the plumber and he had to buy a 100 gallon electric AO smith that she had me install.
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Default Your opinion on this tankless unit......

I go out to a new home built for millenials in the inner city
they probably paid 3 times more than it was worth but they dont care
because they want to live in town..... the contractor built this home and
only installed a 40 gallon electric heater in a closet in the garage and its not big enough for them..........

I give them 2 different options...one if for a 50 gallon electric crammed back into the same closet and the other is for a 85 gallon Marathon installed on blocks in the garage next to this room... Also going ot install a water softener and ro system for him too....

then the guy comes at me with questions on the electric tankless option and I told him to let me know which one he is interested in and I will get him a price.....I told him that they were unreliable.......

I get this e-mail with this u-tube video ....... has anyone ever actually installed anything like this that has really worked properly and for a long while???? I would install it for them if I dont have to warranty and stand behind the results..... give them fair warning

Just Run fast to the bank and cash the check before he complains.........
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I dont want to deal with this junk but there is no way to convince people that they are not reliable...so this job is probably gonna go to someone who is willing to play ball and throw this junk into his home....

has anyone ever installed this ??.....


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No. I’d politely just tell them that you prefer to install quality, but if they insist, no warranty from you in writing.

Personally, I’m too busy, wish I could help. No
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