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Old 02-19-2020, 07:52 PM   #11
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I have installed a few toilets that have 2 flush buttons/levers..1 for piss and 1 for when you take a crap, so I would think the 2 flappers are for that type of set up..Im guessing...
Nope, it's some ultra-powerful flush technology that's guaranteed not to leave skidmarks on the bowl.

One is for the "jet" on the side of the bowl as you'll see in this cheesy-ass video.

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Hold on to your horsies. AS is the leading brand of toilets up here and it's what I recommend since they bought out Crane.


Other than that it's mostly no name brands with ultra cheap parts. So cheap I usually sell them new tank bolts and I always toss the flange bolts.
At one time Crane was awesome! The only two brands I recommend are Gerber and Toto.

Sucks AS is your only go to! Heck, Mansfield is my first box store recommendation for a customer trying to save a buck.

Edit: At least you can still get the 3.5 gallon flush valves and install them in a 1.6. I doubt you actually get 3.5 out of the combo, but a lot more than 1.6.
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At one time Crane was awesome! The only two brands I recommend are Gerber and Toto.

Sucks AS is your only go to! Heck, Mansfield is my first box store recommendation for a customer trying to save a buck.

Edit: At least you can still get the 3.5 gallon flush valves and install them in a 1.6. I doubt you actually get 3.5 out of the combo, but a lot more than 1.6.
I heard Crane had an issue with a furnace and toilets were churned out as time bombs and they caused major floods in my area.

Mansfield aren't sold here, well I've never seen one. Toto only on rare occasion on commercial stuff.

That's all I know and funny thing people ask me all the time what toilet is good. I reply people don't call me back saying it flushes well.
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Nope, it's some ultra-powerful flush technology that's guaranteed not to leave skidmarks on the bowl.

One is for the "jet" on the side of the bowl as you'll see in this cheesy-ass video.

Skid Marks No More with the American Standard's VorMax - YouTube



LOL..ill take that challenge and bet double flappers wont cut it....
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Tried to repair one last year for a customer, the supply house that sold it to the customer had no repair parts for it. Waited over a week for cheesy repair parts. What happened to A.S.?

Terrible design, ripped it out and replaced with a Toto Drake, 6 month later when it started to leak again.

Replaced another one for a different customer yesterday. Only 6 months old. Customer hated it. It is called elongated but is smaller than other elongated toilets


This toilet is 6 months old TO THE DAY. Too funny^^^
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American standard is a good go to w/c in Toronto, for residential.
then Toto, preferably not bought/sold at A big box, store.
Koehler is ok, but they seem frumpy.
Glacier bay, I won’t install/touch.
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I have found that with almost all toilet brands it's a crap shoot. Sometimes you get a $150 one and it's great, other times the $3500 won't evacuate for schit.


Mansfield is what I like if we're talking modern low flush toilets. All their toilets have the same trap design and evacuate well. I like the alto 137-160. I pulled one out of a building a couple months ago because they were renovating the bathroom. It's now in my upstairs bathroom


Also, they're made in the usa and they have fully glazed trap ways. I have seen $1000 models with unglazed trapways. Horse schit.







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American standard is a good go to w/c in Toronto, for residential.
then Toto, preferably not bought/sold at A big box, store.
Koehler is ok, but they seem frumpy.
Glacier bay, I won’t install/touch.
I've installed many glacier bay if I remember correctly, the plastic in there is so stiff and the flapper is rigid too!

So I presume you ask the customer what toilet they bought and if it's a glacier bay you refuse the job and they hire someone else? Did you have one fail?
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I've installed many glacier bay if I remember correctly, the plastic in there is so stiff and the flapper is rigid too!

So I presume you ask the customer what toilet they bought and if it's a glacier bay you refuse the job and they hire someone else? Did you have one fail?
do you remember about 10 years ago the big box stores sold toilets with some whacky fill valve that looked like the top half of a quart of oil...it worked on a diaphragm and water pressure to shut off..they SUXED....
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On the flip side, I love the new Toto's that were installed during remodeling of the bathrooms in one of my buildings. I have conducted extreme loading testing, having dropped deuces after not going for 3 days, then wiping with bi-fold paper towels, have yet to clog one. The Toto motion sensor flush valves work great too, sounds like a jet taking off.
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