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Old 07-27-2020, 09:52 PM   #11
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When I worked in SLC, the guy that I worked for hired a former friend to work
we started coming up with tools missing, after the boss confronted him
he confessed so the boss took him around to all the pawn shops and got the
tools back, and give him a 2nd chance, then after a couple weeks tools
started missing again the boss fired him then had him arrested !
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Old 07-27-2020, 10:24 PM   #12
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You encouraged him by supplying your own tools. You didn't stand up for yourself and now he owns you. You only have yourself to blame. I've seen it all my life the guys would complain behind the boss' back about all the crap but would be yes men as soon as he showed up. Bunch of kittens. I stood up for myself got what I was owed and laid off, whatever.

Most companies I worked for were oppressive and cheap on tools, equipment and supplies but make no mistake they made tons of money and you didn't know it. They acted like pricks, I got even. No drill no problem I'll use my screwdriver and take all day putting a screw in. No torch no problem, I'd hang copper pipe for days ready for soldering. By then the flux was all green and had to be pulled apart. They didn't pay my overtime...okay my breaks were 45 minutes.

My last employer was so cheap, the guys brought electrical tools, drills, step ladders, extension cords, they would work for free on saturday and the guys would buy materials to finish the job! What did he do with all the money? In the same summer he bought a new truck and chromed the hell out of it, then he bought 2 brand new harleys one for him and one for his wife and last but not least and it was confirmed he spent a minimum of 250$ a day on cocaine. He threatened me in my own driveway and he owed me money too, the guys were pu_ssies and didn't do anything but I made sure he got a visit from the ministry. I was eventually paid and every other guy got a check from the ministry 2 years later.



Another boss had a 300K RV at his house plus whatever luxuries, he wouldn't supply tools either and he also stole money from their ignorant employees who were too lazy to read the convention... Until I was hired. Within 2 weeks I saw I wasn't paid my "safety" money on a weekly basis so I counted it up with all his employees and he was pocketing at least 70 grand a year tax free by not paying it. He acted like a d.ic.k when I told him he owed me, well it didn't go well for him, he got a visit from the ministry a few days after that. I can just imagine ministry officials going back 10 years through his books. I was laid off the next week... haha no problem... now I have hundreds of his previous customers.

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i can see a boss making his guys buy the basic hand tools, tape measure, hammer, screw driver, but anything else, hes f ing you. he should supply everything else. my old boss is billing out over 4 times what hes paying his guys. another reason that im not there anymore. i remember when dewalt came out with the cordless vac. about 15 years ago. i put my personal one on the van because he wouldnt buy one. he used it and loved it .when it was junk, he didnt care and i stopped caring.
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It’s a double edged sword for an honest employer. They will get burned thu out the life of the business. I work for a good man with around 200 employees. He spent big bucks on the Hilti tool app and tried hard for a few years to keep everything in line but no one cares enough. Everybody wants their tools but they can’t take 5 minutes to upload the necessary info.

I try to be understanding when they don’t just jump when you need something. Generally though, I always get what I need . As a foreman, I personally keep a close eye on all tools and cords.

On the other hand, I’ll never work for a super cheap company like the ones you guys mentioned.
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@canuck92 Another thing didn't you buy a van with your own money and build shelves to use for your boss?

Another company here where I mentioned several times before, employees buy pick ups, trailers, generators etc.


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The guy I work for now is awesome, I ask for a tool and he giveth.
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@canuck92 Another thing didn't you buy a van with your own money and build shelves to use for your boss?

Another company here where I mentioned several times before, employees buy pick ups, trailers, generators etc.


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Yea i bought a truck, company card paid for the shelving, also gas is coverd, a nice raise and some others things tossed in.
I have a unique situation and this was best for both sides.
Eh i needed to buy a vehicle of some sort might as well be somthing practical for a plumber. I cant do much with a 4 door sedan.
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Yea i bought a truck, company card paid for the shelving, also gas is coverd, a nice raise and some others things tossed in.
I have a unique situation and this was best for both sides.
Eh i needed to buy a vehicle of some sort might as well be somthing practical for a plumber. I cant do much with a 4 door sedan.



I would gladly pay my employer the difference in operating costs to go from a standard cargo van to a kuv.




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Yea i bought a truck, company card paid for the shelving, also gas is coverd, a nice raise and some others things tossed in.
I have a unique situation and this was best for both sides.
Eh i needed to buy a vehicle of some sort might as well be somthing practical for a plumber. I cant do much with a 4 door sedan.
You dug yourself a quick sand pit and jumped in it. Good luck with the CRA.
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Yea i bought a truck, company card paid for the shelving, also gas is coverd, a nice raise and some others things tossed in.
I have a unique situation and this was best for both sides.
Eh i needed to buy a vehicle of some sort might as well be somthing practical for a plumber. I cant do much with a 4 door sedan.
You dug yourself a quick sand pit and jumped in it. Good luck with the CRA.
Why would i have a problem with the canadian revenue agency? Its a vehicle almost everyone owns one, and why do you have a bone to pick with me?
You seemed cheesed off that i have a truck an dont work for myself.
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