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Old 03-06-2016, 11:30 AM   #11
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Old 03-06-2016, 05:08 PM   #12
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2" above roof might work if there is no chance of snow
Tempted to contact him and ask about this.
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Old 03-06-2016, 06:39 PM   #13
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If you simply state the vent system is designed to neutralize the pressure in the drainage system, you would be 100% accurate.



What he states is true....a vent neutralizes pressure....

In theory you could vent a 5 bathroom house with a 1/2 inch pipe out the roof... I know that would be extreme but we have thousands of 5 bathroom barns in this city with only a 1 1/2 vent poked out the roof and they all seem to work fine....


its a good test for the show myth-busters to try sometime......
They don't get freezing temperatures in Indy? Around here that thing would hoar frost shut. I've seen it happen on a 3" stack. Of course that was an odd situation and isn't the norm but 1 doesn't stand much of a chance.
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Old 03-06-2016, 07:07 PM   #14
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Darn near every time I have seen galvanized pipe for vent it has been almost completely plugged. be it rust swell, a tee that sagged and is below the standing water line, a 90 elbow filled, or a dead squirrell, or the occasional bird nest. And you know what? the plumbing has worked fine for ages!
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They don't get freezing temperatures in Indy? Around here that thing would hoar frost shut. I've seen it happen on a 3" stack. Of course that was an odd situation and isn't the norm but 1 doesn't stand much of a chance.

You see them all over town....I suppose they could freeze up but eventually they would thaw out .... no one seems to notice or care
....never been called out for a slow drain problem yet....
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Pay no attention to that sewer gas in your office building ma'am. Julius Ballanco says it's perfectly fine for your sanitary system vents to be cut low to the roof & covered by solar panels. The sewer gasses are fine to be pulled I to the building by your roof-top hvac units. What do plumbers know? We'll just install some more "solar-powered" exhaust fans to draw that stench out of yer office! ;-) :-)
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Pay no attention to that sewer gas in your office building ma'am. Julius Ballanco says it's perfectly fine for your sanitary system vents to be cut low to the roof & covered by solar panels. The sewer gasses are fine to be pulled I to the building by your roof-top hvac units. What do plumbers know? We'll just install some more "solar-powered" exhaust fans to draw that stench out of yer office! ;-) :-)

I don't know many sloped roofs with rooftop units. And on a flat roof the solar panel would be far from horizontal and blocking the vent. Not to mention the vent needs very little actual air movement. Also, how much of a difference in air movement are you really going to get from 2" off of the roof to 8"? Is there really that much of a deadzone in airflow right above the roof surface? And what about the attic units with a barometric damper for make up air right next to a studor vent? I think we need some regs as to how close air intakes can be to a sewer vent.....oh wait, do they have those?
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I don't know many sloped roofs with rooftop units. And on a flat roof the solar panel would be far from horizontal and blocking the vent. Not to mention the vent needs very little actual air movement. Also, how much of a difference in air movement are you really going to get from 2" off of the roof to 8"? Is there really that much of a deadzone in airflow right above the roof surface? And what about the attic units with a barometric damper for make up air right next to a studor vent? I think we need some regs as to how close air intakes can be to a sewer vent.....oh wait, do they have those?
Given that your intro states you do drain snaking, I think you should stick to what you know. Regarding your comment about studor vents, please do some research on how they actually work. Regarding your sarcastic, in my opinion, comment about regulations on vent distances from fresh air intakes, there absolutely are. Again, research on your part will learn ya what they are. Matter of fact, why don't ya research all your comments to find out what actually happens on a flat office roof with parapet walls, and how the air flow works.
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I don't know many sloped roofs with rooftop units. And on a flat roof the solar panel would be far from horizontal and blocking the vent. Not to mention the vent needs very little actual air movement. Also, how much of a difference in air movement are you really going to get from 2" off of the roof to 8"? Is there really that much of a deadzone in airflow right above the roof surface? And what about the attic units with a barometric damper for make up air right next to a studor vent? I think we need some regs as to how close air intakes can be to a sewer vent.....oh wait, do they have those?
yes there are lots of code on where sewer vents can or cannot terminate through a roof...
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Given that your intro states you do drain snaking, I think you should stick to what you know. Regarding your comment about studor vents, please do some research on how they actually work. Regarding your sarcastic, in my opinion, comment about regulations on vent distances from fresh air intakes, there absolutely are. Again, research on your part will learn ya what they are. Matter of fact, why don't ya research all your comments to find out what actually happens on a flat office roof with parapet walls, and how the air flow works.

Yes, there was some sarcasm there, just like that which you have directed torward Mr.Ballanco.

And yes, I understand there are regs on the distances, that's my point. I can think of only a very limited number of instances where given the proper distances, meaning the plumber who was there first did it correctly, would you have an issue with smells.

And I am sticking to what I know, Drains, which includes vents. I have had many calls where the customer thinks they have an issue due to sewer gases, never has one been from a short stack. It's always just a dried out trap, shifted toilet, or other break. Even with studor vents terminating in the attic people don't get smells. We are currently renovating a house that just sold, the vent stopped half way up in a 2nd story wall, where the odor could have gone up and into a semi finished attic, the old owners were our customers and never had an issue. Very rarely do I see a lack of venting be an issue, but I commonly find filled vents because I check anyway. Usually a sink overflow being clogged is the source of the venting issue, blow it out and you're good to go.

How would you feel if someone told you to stick to numbers instead of plumbing? Sorry for the attitude, I usually refrain.
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