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Old 08-05-2016, 07:31 PM   #41
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I know why you can't stay employed.
You can't ****ing read. My dad was a welder, not a plumber. No one in my family is in local 78 or a plumber.

Good apprentices don't get laid off.
But don't worry wal-mart is always hiring and you'll fit right in.
I was laid off for 17 months... Was I a bad apprentice?
Fly out I bet in the 17 months you stayed busy.

I'm trying to give Tank some real advice.
The only way you'll survive is by keeping yourself busy. That means working at grandmas or for your brother/uncle/neighbors
doing whatever side work you can
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Old 08-05-2016, 07:33 PM   #42
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I can't believe this thread has gone five pages with no intro from tank. Where are the admin

I would take a little easier on tank if he would follow the rules
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Fly out I bet in the 17 months you stayed busy.

I'm trying to give Tank some real advice.
The only way you'll survive is by keeping yourself busy. That means working at grandmas or for your brother/uncle/neighbors
doing whatever side work you can
I delivered pizza, and took every class the union provided, and construction management classes, and CAD classes....I didn't do side work cause I didn't want to be liable for something.

Eventually I took a non union job for a residential shop. My first day, the union called offered a short call and I never went back to the bench.
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Also, I've seen what is happening to tank happen with apprentices around here, they are only used as laborers, no one will train them. Not all, but some. It's mostly guys my age, and a bit older who were scorned by the market crash and see everyone as a threat... Including first years.

Now me, my goal is always to have the skills the guy infront of me has... So now that I'm a lead foreman, I'm trying to learn how to be a super, so when an opportunity presents its self I'll be ready... Never go backwards.
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I'll try to share anything and everything I know with an apprentice,the more they can do the less I have to do.We have 1-1st year,3-2nd year,1-3rd year on the job now,some days their pack mules,some days they hang pipe.The 3rd year would be the first to go,not because of him being more expensive but because he's got a **** attitude!
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Everyone eats some sh!t. I'm as union as they come. However, I've worked non union. Either way, put up or shut up. You are good hand, you work. You act like a self entitled ittle *****, you don't work.
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Everyone eats some sh!t. I'm as union as they come. However, I've worked non union. Either way, put up or shut up. You are good hand, you work. You act like a self entitled ittle *****, you don't work.
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Couldn't you go work at a non union shop and not sit around waiting
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Couldn't you go work at a non union shop and not sit around waiting
In Detroit area you cant work non union unless the hall places you there to salt them. I dont think they use apes to salt companies.
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How can the hall place you in a non union company? And if your not in the union how can the hall dictate where you work
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