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Old 03-09-2014, 11:20 AM   #1
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Considering all the different jurisdictions, legal requirements, licenses, registrations, seals, helpers, apprentices, journeymen, masters/contractors, office staff, business operators, retired, quit, drain cleaning, lack of requirements in some areas, different subsets of the trade, different states, even different countries...

What is your definition of a Plumbing Professional?
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Old 03-09-2014, 11:23 AM   #2
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I would say someone who makes their living or has in the past made their living in the plumbing/drain cleaning field.
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Considering all the different jurisdictions, legal requirements, licenses, registrations, seals, helpers, apprentices, journeymen, masters/contractors, office staff, business operators, retired, quit, drain cleaning, lack of requirements in some areas, different subsets of the trade, different states, even different countries...

What is your definition of a Plumbing Professional?
Difficult because the manufacturers reps and salesmen could make a case for inclusion also. And drain cleaners, are those guys really plumbers sure, they clean pipes but then again, the hotel maid cleans toilets
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Old 03-09-2014, 11:35 AM   #4
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plumb∑ing noun \ˈplə-miŋ\
: a system of pipes that carries water through a building

: the work of a plumber : the job of installing and repairing sinks, toilets, water pipes, etc.

Full Definition of PLUMBING

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: the act of using a plumb
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: a plumber's occupation or trade
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a : the apparatus (as pipes and fixtures) concerned in the distribution and use of water in a building
b : an internal system that resembles plumbing; especially : one consisting of conduits or channels for conveying fluids


pro∑fes∑sion∑al adjective \prə-ˈfesh-nəl, -ˈfe-shə-nəl\
: relating to a job that requires special education, training, or skill

: done or given by a person who works in a particular profession

: paid to participate in a sport or activity

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a : of, relating to, or characteristic of a profession
b : engaged in one of the learned professions
c (1) : characterized by or conforming to the technical or ethical standards of a profession (2) : exhibiting a courteous, conscientious, and generally businesslike manner in the workplace
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b : having a particular profession as a permanent career <a professional soldier>
c : engaged in by persons receiving financial return <professional football>
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Considering all the different jurisdictions, legal requirements, licenses, registrations, seals, helpers, apprentices, journeymen, masters/contractors, office staff, business operators, retired, quit, drain cleaning, lack of requirements in some areas, different subsets of the trade, different states, even different countries...

What is your definition of a Plumbing Professional?

Someone skilled in the planning, superintending, and practical installation, of plumbing and who is familiar with the laws and rules governing the same.

Or someone who is making strides and and following the laws to become the above.
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And specifically which of those definitions apply to the banner in the top right corner?

Edit: Referring to Utah's post.
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Difficult because the manufacturers reps and salesmen could make a case for inclusion also. And drain cleaners, are those guys really plumbers sure, they clean pipes but then again, the hotel maid cleans toilets
You make the case NH. How do you define it as it relates to the PZ you wish to see?
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I agree the reps and salesman are professionals in the industry yet they don't do any repair or installation so they would not be plumbing professionals. However some reps and salesman are very good at their jobs and know quite a bit when it comes to troubleshooting a product of theirs. I don't feel that they should be regular contributors on the forum.
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Lets say there is a site for say "Chef Professionals Only", you think there will be a need to include a McDonalds burger flipper????

I'd like to think anyone engaged in the plumbing trade legally and is eager to learn the trade would be welcomed here with open arms. If they are hear for different reasons, I'd hope they would be ignored and would leave on there own account.

This there something wrong with that? I don't really care about the Plumbing Professional Only banner. Its the active members here that give this place a soul, not the the men behind the curtains running the site. We have a standard here for Plumbers engaged in the trade to be welcomed here, that is what made this site what it is/was. Not the rules, there is no license audits here. But naturally if they place stays for us professionals, the non professionals will come and go and leave on there own.
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We have talked about "sections" here before so here's how I feel. I think there should be a section for reps and sales and here's why. No other site does that and honestly, there should be a place where questions can be asked of those guys that know their product. I guarantee all of us have spent a lot of time talking with manufacturers reps about products and problems and those guys are the go too source for such information. In a way, they are professionals in their product line so yea, it would b nice to be able to wrangle the Sloan rep here if needed but I don't want them posting on the plumbing threads.
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