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Old 02-24-2019, 12:01 PM   #41
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Even though it was my official full year on my own I did many many service jobs. I'm getting a lot LESS jobs from wranglers because they think the rate is high so that weeds them out.

Maybe getting bad customers is from a percentage to the proportion of jobs? I did nearly 200 service jobs in 2018. How many jobs did you? Do you do a lot of service calls or more bigger paying jobs like renos?

Maybe I'll get even less weirdos this year as the rate went up, I screen more people too with the knowledge I gain.
My gosh! The more you talk about the reality of Canada the worse it sounds! Not trying to be negative or anything... have you looked into moving south and getting citizenship in the US? legally it will take time, but we need more plumbers!

Maybe we can exchange AOC for ya! Itíd be a win for both our countries!
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Old 02-24-2019, 02:45 PM   #42
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That's less than 1 service call a day. I sure hope you had a good hand full of remodels or other jobs to make you stay busy enough to make a living.

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Only one reno/remodel this year and maybe one or 2-3x 1/4 rough or finish. Most are 1-2 hour plumbing service calls mixed with drain cleaning laterals.

Since I repair everything myself and don't spend on toys. I did go to a few more restaurants and bought myself cheese curds I couldn't afford the previous years. I've done okay this year.

If I can get 25% more calls this year it will be starting to look good. Most of my spending on tools is almost done. But who knows I might be needing a new motor in the van?

This year I bought a k-3800 and accessories
A mini jetter
A chinese camera and I made a reel for it. With fully loaded features nevertheless!
A navitrack II locator(new in the box for the price of a used scout)
Many battery operated tools
other tools.

I all paid these with money from the service jobs I did. I haven't taken a loan since I was 18 years old other than the mortgage.
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My gosh! The more you talk about the reality of Canada the worse it sounds! Not trying to be negative or anything... have you looked into moving south and getting citizenship in the US? legally it will take time, but we need more plumbers!

Maybe we can exchange AOC for ya! Itíd be a win for both our countries!
Tell me how bad it sounds? I don't really feel it's negative if you base it on my particular comment.

I think I voice out what other don't say about doing service calls, neighbors and other realities, no? A lot of people have bad neighbors...I just got a retarded felon move beside me, the landlord chose to buy the run down house to make a fast buck without putting a single penny on the upkeep, that's the norm for landlords don't you think...
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you need to build up a good relationship with good quality contractors if that is possible...
Not sure about that, the majority of the GCs who do house remodels are sharks. Maybe there are some good people in there but I have no proof yet. I'd like to know who they are! Then there are those who don't pay.

Anyway the 10 or so who called me were looking for employee rates, or some handyman price and one company his associate tried to smooth talk me into all the jobs and money I would make until I went to see the job, he wanted me to give him an employee rate quote and do a lot of illegal hack plumbing. Till the very end he talked to me as if I was his biatch. I just said no and left.

I enjoy service work, I'm mostly fully equipped for that, I'm comfortable in that sort of thing, money on the spot and most people are nice. (other than the soaps) That's why I buy any tool that will help me specialize in that area.
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Not sure about that, the majority of the GCs who do house remodels are sharks. Maybe there are some good people in there but I have no proof yet. I'd like to know who they are! Then there are those who don't pay.

Anyway the 10 or so who called me were looking for employee rates, or some handyman price and one company his associate tried to smooth talk me into all the jobs and money I would make until I went to see the job, he wanted me to give him an employee rate quote and do a lot of illegal hack plumbing. Till the very end he talked to me as if I was his biatch. I just said no and left.

I enjoy service work, I'm mostly fully equipped for that, I'm comfortable in that sort of thing, money on the spot and most people are nice. (other than the soaps) That's why I buy any tool that will help me specialize in that area.

if thats all you have to deal with, stay with service, worse case is you only lose on a small job, not a 20k plumbing job..
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Tell me how bad it sounds? I don't really feel it's negative if you base it on my particular comment.

I think I voice out what other don't say about doing service calls, neighbors and other realities, no? A lot of people have bad neighbors...I just got a retarded felon move beside me, the landlord chose to buy the run down house to make a fast buck without putting a single penny on the upkeep, that's the norm for landlords don't you think...
Neighbors you really canít control for the most part. We have some new neighbors who I havenít quite figured out yet, county judge who keeps to himself, a crazy lady, who keeps to herself, and some awesome neighbors.

Customers are 99% good here. We have to try real hard to make a three day weekend happen, and I have to shut my phone off and make up some excuse to have a quiet weekend.

Where I seem to have too much work and generally awesome customers, you only had 200 jobs in a year... we have 1-10 a day, and struggle for time off!
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I think I made an awesome year considering I was completely out of the blue, new kid on the block competing with 8 companies or however many there are that has 5-20 employees.
With a website of 2 pages that wasn't even in the top 25 pages of google till around may. A brand new company with only a few reviews from 2017, no return customers, I wasn't really offering drain cleaning and other services, I turned many down. Now I'm equipped for them.
Also no outside help to do my website, se.o and ads other than excellent advice I get from you guys on PZ.

I gained a few repeat customers, I had installed a kitchen faucet and 2 days later she said it was leaking from the deck into the cabinet. I went back late afternoon after her work to seal it free of charge. Then she called me last week because the bathroom in the basement was all backed up. After doing the job the son told me they had another big company unclog it a few months ago but now I had the job. They lost a customer and I gained a repeat and received a good review! I showed the guy why it had backed up with pictures, it sounded more credible and trustworthy.
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