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Old 05-10-2020, 09:24 AM   #11
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[QUOTE=ShtRnsdownhill;1239344]I say its the responsibility of a worker to determine what is safe or not safe for powering equipment, and should carry or have a gfci extension cord if they are not sure...
to blame a homeowner would not be proper unless the homeowner stated that the outlet was safe and up to code..
the blood sucking lawyers will go after everyone..
while tragic for the worker you have to stop blaming everyone else for ones own responsibility ..
I carry an voltage tester because I dont trust anyone that says the powers off when working on any electric to hook up a boiler, dishwasher or garbage disposal .

I suspect part of the problem in this country is the legal team accessing risk management under the guise of safety.
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Old 05-11-2020, 02:19 PM   #12
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thats like blaming the car for a drunken driver that crashes....
Not quite.

That is like blaming the driver of the car (not drunk) for not maintaining his cars wheel when it comes off and his vehicle crashes into another car.
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Gfci or not if that outlet was properly wired than the homeowner doesn't deserve to be sued. I don't know this poor fella that died and if he was smart or not, but I do know that using a wet electrical cord is dumb and he seems to have accidentally killed himself.



If someone is in the trades and is using power tools and extension cords than they should know basic electrical safety.



It's an accident that occurred on the job than his employers insurance should make the pay out.

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Yep. I'm sure the workers compensation paid out. Not sure where the suit is coming from. The workers family may be attempting a wrongful death or the workers comp company may be going after the owner or other contractors who were working on a "remodel" aspect around the same time.

Think of our aspect. A plumber causes a cross connection which poisons someone, screws up a gas line and causes and explosion, improperly secures cast iron which falls and kills someone. The contractor gets sued and for those who have gone through this the attorney brings in everyone who was working or had interest in the job or site. If anyone aspect found against the case is won.

An attorney usually doesn't just go after a single entity (which is bull****). Installers, makers, maintenance crews, owners, etc.
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Yep. I'm sure the workers compensation paid out. Not sure where the suit is coming from. The workers family may be attempting a wrongful death or the workers comp company may be going after the owner or other contractors who were working on a "remodel" aspect around the same time.

Think of our aspect. A plumber causes a cross connection which poisons someone, screws up a gas line and causes and explosion, improperly secures cast iron which falls and kills someone. The contractor gets sued and for those who have gone through this the attorney brings in everyone who was working or had interest in the job or site. If anyone aspect found against the case is won.

An attorney usually doesn't just go after a single entity (which is bull****). Installers, makers, maintenance crews, owners, etc.
Its called a SHOTGUN maybe the one person or company at fault doe's
not have that much Insurance but maybe you do so that is someone else
they can collect from
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I broke an old school light bulb with my head... then proceeded to hit the electrodes after that with my head again needless to say it got crispy for a second...


I'm sad to admit I'm one of those dumb asses... Its not the first time Ive zapped myself either....
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I broke an old school light bulb with my head... then proceeded to hit the electrodes after that with my head again needless to say it got crispy for a second...


I'm sad to admit I'm one of those dumb asses... Its not the first time Ive zapped myself either....



I have hit my head against all three types, incandescent, cfl, and led. None of them are pleasant. Luckily never been cut or electrocuted from them, just burned.




I tell ya, if you install a base down led base up, those phuckers get hot!!!! And it's an aluminum heat sink so it burns more than glass.







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