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Titan Plumbing · 07-03-2010, 08:55 PM

The most difficult fixture that I've ever set was the one I missed on my bid................

Redwood · 07-03-2010, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Choctaw

The most difficult fixture that I've ever set was the one I missed on my bid................

D'OH

saysflushable · 07-05-2010, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tommy plumber

Why would a plumber set a tub during the final phase? In 16 yrs of plumbing, during new consrtuction, we ALWAYS set tubs during the 2nd rough, never during a final.

Whats a 2nd rough? We would set them on the finish when tile had to be installed 1st. then we would install the deck mount faucet and set the tub. Oh man it is terrible!

luv2plumb · 07-05-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by saysflushable

Whats a 2nd rough? We would set them on the finish when tile had to be installed 1st. then we would install the deck mount faucet and set the tub. Oh man it is terrible!

2nd rough is the stage when you are doing the rough for the walls (water, vents...etc.)

Tommy plumber · 07-05-2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by saysflushable

Whats a 2nd rough? We would set them on the finish when tile had to be installed 1st. then we would install the deck mount faucet and set the tub. Oh man it is terrible!

A Bathtub or shower base has to be installed after the stud walls are installed yet before any drywall is put up. This way the cement board can be installed AFTER plumber sets tub. Then of course the tile men are next. When the water piping, vent penetrations through the roof, tubs, tub valves, etc. are being roughed-in, this is the 2nd rough or 2nd phase of installing plumbing in a new bldg. A friend of mine from Tallahassee, FLA calls this phase a "stack-out". Other plumbers call it a "top-out". Hope this helps.

Oh by the way, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know you cannot get a 2nd rough inspection w/o tubs being set, right?

422 plumber · 07-05-2010, 04:17 PM

The only terms I have heard are:
underground
rough
trim.
I have done most of my plumbing in the collar counties outside of Chicago.

rex · 07-05-2010, 04:24 PM

i call it the upper rough....

smellslike$tome · 07-05-2010, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy plumber

A Bathtub or shower base has to be installed after the stud walls are installed yet before any drywall is put up. This way the cement board can be installed AFTER plumber sets tub. Then of course the tile men are next. When the water piping, vent penetrations through the roof, tubs, tub valves, etc. are being roughed-in, this is the 2nd rough or 2nd phase of installing plumbing in a new bldg. A friend of mine from Tallahassee, FLA calls this phase a "stack-out". Other plumbers call it a "top-out". Hope this helps.

Oh by the way, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know you cannot get a 2nd rough inspection w/o tubs being set, right?

Not when it's a drop in tub, tile first and the tub rests on top, same with the deck mounted tub filler unless the tub can accommodate the deck mounted faucet, either way though the tub rests on tile and consequently must be installed at the set out.

Btw:

Slab or
Slab rough or
Underground

rough in

set out

Tommy plumber · 07-05-2010, 07:58 PM

Thanks smells like $. I stand corrected.

Plumbdog · 08-03-2010, 02:18 PM

Pedestal lav by Toto. Unlike most peds where you can mount the faucet before you hang it on the wall, Toto has put their mounting holes directly behind the valves.

So, you need to have hands the size of young child or you hang the lav and install the faucet after.

Hate them with a passion. I now always ask if it's a Toto when someone wants a Pedestal installed and if so I explain and price accordingly.

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422 plumber soccer mom Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Gardner, Il. Posts: 2,970 My Photos	The only terms I have heard are: underground rough trim. I have done most of my plumbing in the collar counties outside of Chicago. __________________ Just a sinner saved by grace

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Titan Plumbing Hecho In America Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 1,890 My Photos	The most difficult fixture that I've ever set was the one I missed on my bid................

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rex Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cohoctah,MI Posts: 239 My Photos	i call it the upper rough....

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Tommy plumber Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 4,145 My Photos	Thanks smells like $. I stand corrected.

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Plumbdog Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Southern, Maine Posts: 283 My Photos	Pedestal lav by Toto. Unlike most peds where you can mount the faucet before you hang it on the wall, Toto has put their mounting holes directly behind the valves. So, you need to have hands the size of young child or you hang the lav and install the faucet after. Hate them with a passion. I now always ask if it's a Toto when someone wants a Pedestal installed and if so I explain and price accordingly.