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Old 11-16-2009, 08:33 PM   #181
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Hey Tieger Plbg...
Competency is another issue for most ENTJs: they want to deal only with those they perceive as competent and knowledgeable.

ENTJs frequently like people who get straight to the point, and can back up their claims with facts.

You can expect most ENTJs to challenge and freely criticize your statements.

Anything that remotely appears illogical will not sway ENTJs.

Avoid redundancy.

If your plans are unclear or lack structure, most ENTJs will ignore them.

Overloading an ENTJ with useless facts, minutiae, and hearsay will also make them impatient, and they will ignore that information.

I'M JUST SAYIN'!...
Christina,
That was funny as heck.

TM,
Tieger has more plumbing knowledge in his muscle memory worn pinkie fingers than you ever will. Don't you get tired of googling the living **** out of a subject when arguing. Go do something productive.

All this is in my humble opinion.
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Christina,
That was funny as heck.

TM,
Tieger has more plumbing knowledge in his muscle memory worn pinkie fingers than you ever will. Don't you get tired of googling the living **** out of a subject when arguing. Go do something productive.

All this is in my humble opinion.
Dont you get tired of being proved wrong all the time by a small time hack?
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You play too dirty for me....I might end up on a billboard in chicoland if I keep talking. Wanted...Dead or alive...MOB hit.
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Cast Iron should be banned from plumbing. Does anyone else agree with this statement? In my experience using cast or even replacing it, it is always corroded and full of everything you can think of sticking inside the pipe. Now I see no problem using it in venting in an open return system, you have to for fire codes. Venting will not hold materials like a drain will. I really think PVC or ABS should be the only thing allowed in waste lines. I even have my doubts about ABS. But that is better then cast.

Here is what we are talking about in this thread. Remember.
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OFF TOPIC HERE... YOU GUYS ARE MAKING THIS WOMAN DANG NEAR PEE HER PANTS FROM LAUGHING SO HARD!! PLEASE STOP, I AM GETTING GUT CRAMPS FROM ROLLING ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING MY OFF.

But I have to say guys. I am not familiar with installing cast iron, I know that everytime I have ran on to it... It has been a problem. Dealing with some in the new portion of the hospital right now that is and the fittings are too. I have some other choice words for the men who put it in- but I will not bash union too bad being that my dad was union until he took over the family business and my grandad went back to work for the union for retirement and all after he quit the business... but anyways. I can see having to use it where it has apt to being ran over (driveway, whatever) or in your larger industrial or commercial applications- but in residential installation?

And I don't remember who said it about CI being more professional because no Lowe's guy could sell him that CI tee on Sunday...
I have worked at a supply house and you won't believe what people will buy to avoid calling a plumber.

I was in the middle of replying when this was still in the CAST IRON THREAD!! I get done and it's not where I want it... CAN YOU PLEASE PUT ME IN CI?
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There you go Chris!
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But I have to say guys. I am not familiar with installing cast iron, I know that everytime I have ran on to it... It has been a problem.
What is the problem you run into?
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No gone. I dont mind it, as a matter of fact a lot of high end jobs the HO wants cast because its quieter than plastic.

For me, CI= more $!!
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Cast Iron should be banned from plumbing. Does anyone else agree with this statement? In my experience using cast or even replacing it, it is always corroded and full of everything you can think of sticking inside the pipe. Now I see no problem using it in venting in an open return system, you have to for fire codes. Venting will not hold materials like a drain will. I really think PVC or ABS should be the only thing allowed in waste lines. I even have my doubts about ABS. But that is better then cast.
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What is the problem you run into?
Have been called out to a new section of the hospital that is ran in cast-iron. Now, I know, this is suppose to be CI do to strength, sounds, acids, fire codes, whatever... but I know for a fact that PVC is allowed elsewhere in the hospital so why not here? It is not a surgical area, it is the top floor, it is an area where there are mainly just elderly. These patients are sometimes forgetful... hmmm... they flush paper towels, football size toilet paper, wipies... etc. So, with the abrasiveness of the CI guess what? Regular cleaning. Well here is another problem that we have came across.

Was called out for 2 rooms (plumbed in pairs) that were stopped up. We ran the small cable (3/8") in the floor drain of one... came up in the lav vent of the other. Ran the small cable in the shower drain of one... came up in the shower drain of the other. Was able to get my arm in the 5" (DID I SAY 5") access panel and remove the rubber cap from behind the wall hung commode... came up into the other commode. Tried all this from the other restroom going back toward the first one... same dang thing. Finally, had to go down a floor (unfinished, thankfully) and pull a plug to clear the line. So, what am I suppose to do when this floor gets finished and the drop ceilings are installed? Don't worry, not a one time freak thing... we have been called for the same problem 3 times now. The Wye-Cross type fittings that these "plumbers " have put in seem to not have enough angle to force my cable down the line. The cable jumps across EVERYTIME!! The last call we got on this floor of the hospital was again on a cast iron line and all retrieved was papertowels, toilet paper, wipies. This was the main line leaving this floor.
The pipe is too abrasive causing everything you can think of sticking inside the pipe. I really think PVC should be the only thing allowed in these types of waste lines.

I hope I explained that all OK- if not I am sure you will ask more question... But, this is only my personal oppinion!
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