1.5" cpvc valves - Plumbing Zone

Protech · 08-19-2010, 05:13 PM

Any suggestions? I don't want to use the cpvc plastic bodied valves because they frequently leak out of the packing and cannot be serviced. I saw some brass/bronze/copper ball valves a few times that have cpvc inserts built into the metal valve body. Those would be nice because I would have a brass/bronze/copper valve with an actual packing nut but I wouldn't need the expensive brass MIP adapters. I can get a 1.5" full port brass ball valve for less than $20 but now one around here sells a 1.5" cpvc by brass MIP adapter for less than $35.

The darn adapters cost more than the valve they are connected too.

I can't/won't use plastic cpvc MIP adapters as this is a hot water application.

Does anyone know where to get those 1.5" metal valves with the cpvc inserts built right in? Any idea what they cost

Many thanks.

Protech · 08-19-2010, 07:27 PM

http://www.laxengineeredsolutions.co...50STE&CartID=1

What do you think of these?

TheMaster · 08-19-2010, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Protech

http://www.laxengineeredsolutions.co...50STE&CartID=1

What do you think of these?

I have never used any big cpvc but they look ok. Its nice that you can change the body if it goes bad without too much trouble with the built in unions if you buy an extra or if they are still available when needed.. Its the cheapest way...but its not the best way.....but its good enough. You dont wanna outbid the job but you want an installation you can warranty and still sleep. looks like a good compromise......go with it.

GREENPLUM · 08-19-2010, 07:35 PM

http://www.siouxchief.com/Supply/Fit...l-Valve5.DJVRR

TheMaster · 08-19-2010, 07:38 PM

I knew you would know...you love that stuff

GREENPLUM · 08-19-2010, 07:43 PM

i do like the 1" PVC ball valve sioux chief makes, its way better than plastic ball valves

Protech · 08-19-2010, 10:28 PM

Those valves cost a bit much and I don't think Mr. Patel is going to go for it at those prices. I'll give him 2 options, the Hayward true unions and the Sioux Chiefs.

The Haywards may be plastic but they have a beefy handle (well, as beefy as plastic gets anyway) and double o-rings on the stem. Even if the stem ends up leaking like the current POS valves are doing, at least changing the valves will be a snap with the unions. The Haywards can also be crammed into the short pipe lengths in the boiler manifold in question so that's a plus. If I go with the Sioux Chiefs I'll have to put double 90's on each side of each valve. That's a whole’lotta 90s.

I'm leaning more towards those Haywards the more I think about.

Check'em out: http://www.haywardflowcontrol.com/pd...all_Valves.pdf

**ILPlumber** · 08-19-2010, 10:37 PM

I use those valves on DI water quite a bit in 1" to 4". They have performed well. You won't be disappointed.

Easily serviced.

The 2" to 4" ones are little on the sticky side. Be very careful when you turn them on.

They don't tolerate vibration is my only gripe.....

PaulW · 08-20-2010, 10:57 AM

Is that MR. Patel in Nick Patel?

Paul

Protech · 08-20-2010, 11:08 AM

I wouldn't disclose that kind of information to a potential competitor. Nothing personal, it's just business.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulW

Is that MR. Patel in Nick Patel?

Paul

08-19-2010, 05:13 PM	#1
Protech ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Polk County, Florida Posts: 7,167 My Photos	1.5" cpvc valves Any suggestions? I don't want to use the cpvc plastic bodied valves because they frequently leak out of the packing and cannot be serviced. I saw some brass/bronze/copper ball valves a few times that have cpvc inserts built into the metal valve body. Those would be nice because I would have a brass/bronze/copper valve with an actual packing nut but I wouldn't need the expensive brass MIP adapters. I can get a 1.5" full port brass ball valve for less than $20 but now one around here sells a 1.5" cpvc by brass MIP adapter for less than $35. The darn adapters cost more than the valve they are connected too. I can't/won't use plastic cpvc MIP adapters as this is a hot water application. Does anyone know where to get those 1.5" metal valves with the cpvc inserts built right in? Any idea what they cost Many thanks. __________________ Plumber, Repiping, Replumbing, Leak Detection, Solar Water Heater, Drain Cleaner, Pipe Leak, Polk County Plumber, Lakeland Plumber, Winter Haven Plumber, Haines City Plumber, Bartow Plumber

08-19-2010, 07:27 PM	#2
Protech ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Polk County, Florida Posts: 7,167 My Photos	http://www.laxengineeredsolutions.co...50STE&CartID=1 What do you think of these? __________________ Plumber, Repiping, Replumbing, Leak Detection, Solar Water Heater, Drain Cleaner, Pipe Leak, Polk County Plumber, Lakeland Plumber, Winter Haven Plumber, Haines City Plumber, Bartow Plumber

08-19-2010, 10:28 PM	#7
Protech ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Polk County, Florida Posts: 7,167 My Photos	Those valves cost a bit much and I don't think Mr. Patel is going to go for it at those prices. I'll give him 2 options, the Hayward true unions and the Sioux Chiefs. The Haywards may be plastic but they have a beefy handle (well, as beefy as plastic gets anyway) and double o-rings on the stem. Even if the stem ends up leaking like the current POS valves are doing, at least changing the valves will be a snap with the unions. The Haywards can also be crammed into the short pipe lengths in the boiler manifold in question so that's a plus. If I go with the Sioux Chiefs I'll have to put double 90's on each side of each valve. That's a whole’lotta 90s. I'm leaning more towards those Haywards the more I think about. Check'em out: http://www.haywardflowcontrol.com/pd...all_Valves.pdf __________________ Plumber, Repiping, Replumbing, Leak Detection, Solar Water Heater, Drain Cleaner, Pipe Leak, Polk County Plumber, Lakeland Plumber, Winter Haven Plumber, Haines City Plumber, Bartow Plumber

08-20-2010, 10:57 AM	#9
PaulW Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 99 My Photos	Is that MR. Patel in Nick Patel? Paul __________________ General Manager Progressive Services LLC Clermont, Florida http://www.progressiveservices.com

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08-19-2010, 07:35 PM	#4
GREENPLUM Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: ... Posts: 2,312 My Photos	http://www.siouxchief.com/Supply/Fit...l-Valve5.DJVRR

08-19-2010, 07:38 PM	#5
TheMaster Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,437 My Photos	I knew you would know...you love that stuff

08-19-2010, 07:43 PM	#6
GREENPLUM Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: ... Posts: 2,312 My Photos	i do like the 1" PVC ball valve sioux chief makes, its way better than plastic ball valves

08-19-2010, 10:37 PM	#8
ILPlumber Moderator Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: IL Posts: 5,311 My Photos	I use those valves on DI water quite a bit in 1" to 4". They have performed well. You won't be disappointed. Easily serviced. The 2" to 4" ones are little on the sticky side. Be very careful when you turn them on. They don't tolerate vibration is my only gripe.....

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