smellslike$tome

Three grid bricks with open flame. Did not see any broken spots, why would it matter anyway? Heater is 2 years old. It was installed in a basement finish. Lady's parents live in the basement and notice nothing. Ho may just be very sensitive to the gases but she says she can smell and taste them upstairs when it's burning. Old folks are oblivious. Dust and lent should burn off quickly shouldn't it? She said she could smell it when I was downstairs checking it out. I smelled nothing, ... not even any money .

I really don't like the idea either and I guess this is why the code won't allow anything above 10K btu/hr in a bathroom or bedroom. As for gas stoves yes they are ventless sort of, ... they are all required to have exhaust fans either up or down. I'm pretty sure the primary purpose would be to pull the stinky burnt chicken smoke from the air so it doesn't fill your house but it should pull combustion gases too.

TheMaster

I was talking about a heat exchanger like a cental gas unit has in it. if that heat exchanger has holes in it that means the combustion gas is being pumped in with the duct work. This wouldn't apply to your type of wall heater. if the open flame heats the bricks up then your right,broken or damaged bricks would cause it to burn alittle dirty or alot dirty depending on how bad the damage is. plenty of houses have gas stoves with no vent and just because it has a vent you cannot rely on a person to use it when they use the stove.

DUNBAR PLUMBING

Okay, which one of the above statements are relating to the dangers of heating devices indoors without proper venting?



Your first statement proves my statement,


and you're basing a retort on cooking a turkey for 5 hours, once a year. ???


How easy are you going to make this for me?


You're arguing for the sake of arguing, I'm typing for the sake of reality and educating the viewing public. That's why your eyes were tearing and getting a headache...oxygen depletion.


That's my concern. Not intermittent use of a gas stove with a normal venting hood above for removing air.

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TheMaster

The heaters i was refering to in my post that made my eyes water and nose run were OLD heaters. Any new ventless heater has an oxygen depletion system on it and are perfectly legal.

DUNBAR PLUMBING

And you're also assuming everyone has this new technology design in homes,

And you're assuming that I've never installed a ventless unit until this new technology,

And you're assuming that this oxygen depletion system is foolproof. It's not.


People don't go out and buy these units because they now have oxygen depletion systems on them. I get calls, not many for malfunctioning ventless logs and I won't even touch them. Too many parts and nothing at the supply house, contact the mfg. and wait for the brown box to arrive.


Any time you see me jump in a conversation about something relating to issues of safety, I'm not conversing just to be right or exact a statement; it's the design of making sure the viewing public understands the logic/concern/possibility of what can happen with products like these when put in certain situations, degrees of hazard, possible what ifs over time.


My concern is for good cause...why would you have a problem with this is why many are questioning your motives on many threads here lately.

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TheMaster

Nothings fool proof dunbar. Can you name somthing that is? Heaters that do not have oxygen depletion systems on them should be removed from service. people use gas stoves to heat their house all the time in the ghetto and your acting like sombodys gonna die because they have a brand new ventless gas log system. The reason why you get "dead" heater calls is they have so many safetys and the safetys fail SAFE. You admit you dont touch them and I assume you wouldn't install a new one so how many years of experience do you have not touching them? My motives are plain and simple to tell the truth and thats what I'm doing. Your not only arguing with me but every testing lab in the world that has stamped them safe and every dealer that sells them and every gas supplier that supplies gas to them. The ones that are questioning my motives are the ones who I'm constantly correcting their mis-information.
How many house fires are caused by faulty electrical wiring every year? How many people do you see ripping all the wire out of their house and using flaslights? Everything has a risk like having a never ending supply of explosive gas pumped into your house if ONE joint fails. You can calculate risk for everything you do and dying from a malfunctioning gaslog set from oxygen depletion would rank low on the list.

smellslike$tome

Yikes!!! I wasn't looking to start a pissing match. Everybody take a deep breath.

Ok you guys give each other a big sloppy and make up .

TheMaster

Show me one lie in my above posts and I'll remove it.

smellslike$tome

Well I don't see any so I can't do that.


All I want to know is, ... can't we all just get along?

TheMaster

Sure we can but I'm going to post what I believe is the truth. I didn't attack the duck i just roasted it. In an unvented oven .