Soldering chromed brass tubular to lead pipe - Page 5 - Plumbing Zone

TheMaster · 08-29-2010, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by slickrick

What was the situation TM? What made you have to save the lead arm?

No situation. That is a lead arm I replaced and before I melt it down for flange lead I decided solder a brass tailpiece on it and post it on the forum for discussion. Some plumbers dont get a chance to see any lead pipe in their area.

plbgbiz · 08-29-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PLUMBER_BILL

Can anybody identify these [I know the old timers can] I still have a couple here in the shop.

DWV Unions??

PLUMBER_BILL · 08-29-2010, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by plbgbiz

DWV Unions??

Lead Piping ... The photo below shows AthodeUnions ... A method of joining lead from years ago which did not require wiping.

The right hand part is for lead drainage to IP 1-1/2" both ends. The left hand part of the photo is for 5/8" lead to 3/4 IP.

To use you slipped the end with the nut over the lead, then with a turn pin you flared the lead out, then with a ballpeen hammer you flattened the lead against the flange, then you took a rasp and filed the excess lead to the diameter of the fitting. Finally you coupled to the other end, the lead you hammered flat became the gasket and the pressure caused by tightening the nut created the seal.

This is a copy of a post [topic] made in March of this year. I used search and typed in Athode Unions

house plumber · 08-29-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PLUMBER_BILL

Lead Piping ... The photo below shows AthodeUnions ... A method of joining lead from years ago which did not require wiping.

The right hand part is for lead drainage to IP 1-1/2" both ends. The left hand part of the photo is for 5/8" lead to 3/4 IP.

To use you slipped the end with the nut over the lead, then with a turn pin you flared the lead out, then with a ballpeen hammer you flattened the lead against the flange, then you took a rasp and filed the excess lead to the diameter of the fitting. Finally you coupled to the other end, the lead you hammered flat became the gasket and the pressure caused by tightening the nut created the seal.

This is a copy of a post [topic] made in March of this year. I used search and typed in Athode Unions

its faster to use a fernco.

Tommy plumber · 08-29-2010, 01:11 PM

When I've done lead shower pans on a job, guys stop to look in amazement. It puts you in the upper eschelon of plumbers to be able to work with lead pans, waste arms, water services, etc. But like most people want, we usually gut everything and install plastic. Plastic, flex this, flex that is cheapening this trade. But times have changed.

RW Plumbing · 08-29-2010, 02:34 PM

I do what is best for the customer and remove the lead drains. I wouldn't even try working with them as I've seen them run through floors 20' or more. I've never seen a consistant radius when it turns as the O.D. is different. Plastic or Cast iron are consistant radiuses in the bends, and therefore I think better materials for drain piping.

bigdawginc · 09-06-2010, 01:06 PM

u gottta b kidding, these mofo,s r master plumbers & cantdo a bit joint!!! i am pissing myself over dis chat!!!!

Herk · 09-06-2010, 07:42 PM

I honestly cannot remember if I've ever soldered a brass tailpiece to lead. I have soldered plenty of tailpieces. There used to be solder-on tailpiece extensions. (There probably still are.) In the Good Old Days, plumbers used to make their own tubular - flanging their own tailpiece stock and soldering threads on it.

Of course, when I started there were lots of soldered lead pans and flashings. It was common to make our own pipe flashings for hot-mopped roofs. Ah, those were the days. You can have 'em. I never could wipe a joint without burning my thumb.

RealLivePlumber · 09-06-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdawginc

u gottta b kidding, these mofo,s r master plumbers & cantdo a bit joint!!! i am pissing myself over dis chat!!!!

Looks like a potential signature line to me

08-29-2010, 01:11 PM	#45
Tommy plumber Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 4,145 My Photos	When I've done lead shower pans on a job, guys stop to look in amazement. It puts you in the upper eschelon of plumbers to be able to work with lead pans, waste arms, water services, etc. But like most people want, we usually gut everything and install plastic. Plastic, flex this, flex that is cheapening this trade. But times have changed. __________________ Hire a licensed master plumber.

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08-29-2010, 02:34 PM	#46
RW Plumbing Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 863 My Photos	I do what is best for the customer and remove the lead drains. I wouldn't even try working with them as I've seen them run through floors 20' or more. I've never seen a consistant radius when it turns as the O.D. is different. Plastic or Cast iron are consistant radiuses in the bends, and therefore I think better materials for drain piping.

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bigdawginc Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: phila. Posts: 65 My Photos	bigdawginc u gottta b kidding, these mofo,s r master plumbers & cantdo a bit joint!!! i am pissing myself over dis chat!!!!

09-06-2010, 07:42 PM	#48
Herk Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: S.E. Idaho Posts: 800 My Photos	I honestly cannot remember if I've ever soldered a brass tailpiece to lead. I have soldered plenty of tailpieces. There used to be solder-on tailpiece extensions. (There probably still are.) In the Good Old Days, plumbers used to make their own tubular - flanging their own tailpiece stock and soldering threads on it. Of course, when I started there were lots of soldered lead pans and flashings. It was common to make our own pipe flashings for hot-mopped roofs. Ah, those were the days. You can have 'em. I never could wipe a joint without burning my thumb.