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Old 01-04-2012, 11:46 PM   #1
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Do you guys pull the nut and ferrule on compression angle stops if the threads match, or just swap the stop and call it good. Everyone I've worked for in the past always said if the threads match (i.e. old brasscraft to new brasscraft) just swap the stop but now that I have my own business I change everything, but once in awhile you run into one that has been over-tightened so much it crimps the sh** out of the copper and the new ferrule wont seal. Just curious what the rest of the plumbing world is doing.
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If it looks willing enough and access is easy enough I replace, if not and the nut and ferrel appear to be fine I leave it on. Done this for years and yet to regrett it. I know some are bent on changing them out and I certainly have no problem with it. I say if you believe in changing them out 100% by all means do it. For the most part it's fine either way unless the thing is ancient.
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I try to pull them "IF" there is enough room to cut off a stuborn one without having to open the wall.
If it looks like trouble , I'll use the old nut and ferrule .
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I like to do it on all of them but I'd say probably 2-3% of the time I leave it on because it looks like a can of worms opening up.










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i always change them out. i use a olive splitter, sorry, ferrule spitter.
i know them as olives as thats what we have called them since i have been in the game 24 years now.
the reason i do is because when i tried to just change the stops or whatever else i tried to get away with when i first started in the plumbing game my boss would always make me re do it at my own cost, i may add, so i learned fast and it has just stuck with me.
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I remove the old nut and ferrule. If it's stubborn, I use this: http://www.faucetdepot.com/prod/Pasc...ller-21586.asp

No matter how tight the ferrule is sqooshed onto the copper stub-out, the pasco tool pulls it right off.
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99% I use the Saf T Kut ferrule splitter. Only done a handful where I left the original on. I check that the stop fully fits on the stub before tightening. If the stop only goes on partway, that's inviting a leak.
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I use the pasco tool also, it's scary when u can grab the nut with channys and slide both nut and ferrule off the copper without a problem, I use wd40 or 3 in one when removing ferrules with the pasco tool, it helps a lot. 99% of the time I change it all......... Oh and I ream the pipe that the other plumber forgot to do 90% of the time, if possible i cut off appx 3/8's" of the copper to make sure the new ferrule seats well

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I use the pasco tool also, it's scary when u can grab the nut with channys and slide both nut and ferrule off the copper without a problem,






I know, what's up with that? You wonder how the stop didn't blow off the wall...... Sometimes even, you can slide the nut and ferrule off by hand.....that's when I'm like...
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