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Old 01-09-2012, 04:29 PM   #1
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Default Mansfield Flush Valve

I have replaced two handles on a Mansfield toilet for the same customer in the last 3 weeks.

The handle arm is made of plastic and is breaking off right in front of the nut inside the tank.

It seems like the suction on the flush valve is a little much.
When you lift the toilet handle you can see the handle arm flex, while trying to lift the flush valve.

This home has three of these toilets and all of them seem difficult to flush.

Is there a way / trick to adjust this flush valve and make it easyer to lift up ?
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Old 01-09-2012, 05:33 PM   #2
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Buy a trip lever made of brass, duh! I don't think you would want to adjust the flush valve, you'll be back 3 weeks later to fix a running toilet.
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Buy a trip lever made of brass, duh! I don't think you would want to adjust the flush valve, you'll be back 3 weeks later to fix a running toilet.
I put a brass one in today.
I hope it holds up longer than a couple weeks.
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Brass is the answer.
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The trip lever is not the problem.



It's the flush valve seal, not the trip lever that's the issue.



That seal when it gets older gets concave in shape, creating a suction to the flush valve tower. Anytime you hear "Mansfield" and "hard to flush" you should be replacing the flush valve seal.


Every plumber should know this... and replacing the internals of a mansfield with a different type of flush valve assembly is ripping the customer off big time.

Those flush valves work well if they are maintained.
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The trip lever is not the problem.



It's the flush valve seal, not the trip lever that's the issue.



That seal when it gets older gets concave in shape, creating a suction to the flush valve tower.


Every plumber should know this... and replacing the internals of a mansfield with a different type of flush valve assembly is ripping the customer off big time.

Those flush valves work well if they are maintained.
What he said!
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The trip lever is not the problem.



It's the flush valve seal, not the trip lever that's the issue.



That seal when it gets older gets concave in shape, creating a suction to the flush valve tower. Anytime you hear "Mansfield" and "hard to flush" you should be replacing the flush valve seal.


Every plumber should know this... and replacing the internals of a mansfield with a different type of flush valve assembly is ripping the customer off big time.

Those flush valves work well if they are maintained.


Yup spot on!!
Maybe sell them 3 rebuilds, convert to standard flapper, new tank to bowl, and fluidmaster.
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Yup spot on!!
Maybe sell them 3 rebuilds, convert to standard flapper, new tank to bowl, and fluidmaster.
Thats going to be my next step.
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Oops. I do agree Dunbar if it's just the seal, 100% agree.
Although if the whole tower is gummed up from lousy water, and original needs to be changed. Converting it is not a rip-off. IMO
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I changed 2 seals out the other day. It was difficult to pull the tower by hand, the seal was so gummed up. While there I installed 2 new BRASS flush handles...I do this anytime I run into the plastic handles.

The HO had no idea why it was giving her problems. I took the lid off and nearly was overcome by the chlorine...she was using swimming pool tabs...

I don't know what this is all about but this is the second time in 3 weeks I've found swimming pool tabs in the tank. On was in a 3/4 million dollar home, all 3 flushvalves broke on the second floor and they overflowed...out the front door...
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