Kohler Kitchen Faucet - Plumbing Zone

Miguel · 02-20-2010, 12:43 AM

Hey everyone. Came across a Kohler Caralais pull-out spout faucet that wasn't leaking but the lever handle is too heavy and shuts itself off just by the weight of the handle. No biggy, I reckons, this thing needs a new cartridge. There's a Kohler dealer here but they stock NOTHING and know NOTHING about repair parts! Happy to sell a new faucet, tho.

Now I don't do a great deal of work with the Kohler line of faucets but I pulled the cartridge anyway and lo and behold it looks almost exactly like a Price Phister cartridge! Are the Kohler faucets made by B&D? I'm wondering if I shouldn't just try to match up Fisher Price cartridge.

Anyone have any experience with these two particular lines? Are the cartridges interchangeable? Just looking at the cartridge makes me go, "OMG, that's a Phister!"

Anyone?

dankman · 02-20-2010, 12:49 AM

I don't think it will work.

Miguel · 02-20-2010, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dankman

I don't think it will work.

Naysayer!

You're prolly right but hey! :shrug:

Cal · 02-20-2010, 08:08 AM

No it won't work . Price Pfister was (is) the cheaper line of Delta .

pauliplumber · 02-20-2010, 09:55 AM

There was a Moen kitchen faucet a few years back that did the same thing. Handle too heavy. I ran hot water for about 5 min to loosen up some of the grease which helped a little, and told th HO if it doesn't get better over time lemme know and I'll replace it.

TheMaster · 02-20-2010, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cal

No it won't work . Price Pfister was (is) the cheaper line of Delta .

WTF are you talking about.

I think you meant to say peerless is the cheaper line of delta.

Redwood · 02-20-2010, 11:29 AM

Thats the exact reason why I don't care much for Kohler...

Every time they make a new product they reinvent the wheel making all new parts for it.
Everything is proprietary and there are so many parts that a distributor would go broke trying to stock only one or two of each...
Then Kohler has this minimum order quantity for their distributors so if you ordered through them you'd have to wait until they have enough for an order.
Most will help you get the part number and tell you to buy it from Kohler On-Line because you'll get it faster.

Then you order it On-Line from Kohler and it's Out Of Stock, Back Ordered, Estimated Delivery 3-Weeks.
Damn they can't even stock it themselves!

Now the good part...

I call the customer to tell them the news...

That proprietary fill valve/flush valve for their only toilet in the house won't be in for a month because it's back ordered 3-weeks and they only offer "Free" shipping with no option for next day even if I pay extra and the proprietary part is only $462.20 my cost!

I can install a nice brand new Toto Drake II for a lot less money and you'll have a toilet that flushes better than that Rube Goldberg POS that you have now...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cal

No it won't work . Price Pfister was (is) the cheaper line of Delta .

Ummm Maybe you are thinking Peerless?

Redwood · 02-20-2010, 11:33 AM

When I think of Kohler...

Rube Goldberg always comes to mind...

jc60618 · 02-20-2010, 04:45 PM

I have installed Gerber single handle tub/ shower valves that did the same thing. You would turn the water on and the weight of the handle would close it.

grandpa · 02-20-2010, 10:16 PM

On the subject of faucets, has it sunk in on everyone yet that PP, Delta, and Moen are now producing only California compliant low lead models on virtually all their kitchen and lav faucets? Do you love the long plastic supply lines?

American Standard and Globe Union ( maker of Pegasus, Glacier Bay, Gerber, etc) both seem to have chosen to use the low lead brass and continue to use "conventional" design ( some kind of 1/2" male shank).

02-20-2010, 12:43 AM	#1
Miguel Drained Professional Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sunset Country, Ontario Posts: 709 My Photos	Kohler Kitchen Faucet Hey everyone. Came across a Kohler Caralais pull-out spout faucet that wasn't leaking but the lever handle is too heavy and shuts itself off just by the weight of the handle. No biggy, I reckons, this thing needs a new cartridge. There's a Kohler dealer here but they stock NOTHING and know NOTHING about repair parts! Happy to sell a new faucet, tho. Now I don't do a great deal of work with the Kohler line of faucets but I pulled the cartridge anyway and lo and behold it looks almost exactly like a Price Phister cartridge! Are the Kohler faucets made by B&D? I'm wondering if I shouldn't just try to match up Fisher Price cartridge. Anyone have any experience with these two particular lines? Are the cartridges interchangeable? Just looking at the cartridge makes me go, "OMG, that's a Phister!" Anyone? __________________ *BOOM-diyada! Life is good!*

02-20-2010, 08:08 AM	#4
Cal Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,407 My Photos	No it won't work . Price Pfister was (is) the cheaper line of Delta . __________________ "The unforgivable crime is soft hitting. Do not hit at all if it can be avoided; but never hit softly."

02-20-2010, 09:55 AM	#5
pauliplumber Senior Moment Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: dinner with your wife Posts: 1,885 My Photos	There was a Moen kitchen faucet a few years back that did the same thing. Handle too heavy. I ran hot water for about 5 min to loosen up some of the grease which helped a little, and told th HO if it doesn't get better over time lemme know and I'll replace it. __________________ Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react.

02-20-2010, 11:33 AM	#8
Redwood jA-Rod dat u? Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 9,252 My Photos	When I think of Kohler... Rube Goldberg always comes to mind... __________________ *"Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power."* ~Benito Mussolini~ Lloyd Blankfein for President 2012 - Save Money Cut Out The Middleman! 411 Plumb Appliance Stimulus Package

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02-20-2010, 12:49 AM	#2
dankman Enjoying the confusion Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Somewhere around Cleveland Posts: 167 My Photos	I don't think it will work.

02-20-2010, 04:45 PM	#9
jc60618 Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 64 My Photos	I have installed Gerber single handle tub/ shower valves that did the same thing. You would turn the water on and the weight of the handle would close it.

02-20-2010, 10:16 PM	#10
grandpa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 392 My Photos	On the subject of faucets, has it sunk in on everyone yet that PP, Delta, and Moen are now producing only California compliant low lead models on virtually all their kitchen and lav faucets? Do you love the long plastic supply lines? American Standard and Globe Union ( maker of Pegasus, Glacier Bay, Gerber, etc) both seem to have chosen to use the low lead brass and continue to use "conventional" design ( some kind of 1/2" male shank).

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