Boss's house - Plumbing Zone

**Bill** · 02-10-2010, 08:54 PM

We are putting an addition on my boss's house which includes a master bathroom. The shower will be 5' wide by 6'6" deep. There was to be two mixing valves on the 6'6" wall (His and hers shower) I had planned on dividing 6'6" by three which is 2'2". So, I will have 2'2" from the back wall to the center of the first valve, then 2'2" from center of valve one to valve 2. That will leave 2'2" from the center of the second valve to the shower door. This to me seems to be quite comfortable with two people in there. I mentioned to the boss's wife that when I do my shower I am installing my shower head in the ceiling. Now she wants one. No biggie except my boss wants 3 mixing valves now! 2 will be for the wall heads and one for the ceiling head. So 6'6" divided by 4 is 1'7" center to center! That means they will be shoulder to shoulder in there! My solution is to just use 2 mixing valves with 2'2" centers, then install a diverter valve to switch from the wall head to the ceiling head. This way it will eliminate one mixing valve and keep clearance between the 2 other valves.

WWYD?

house plumber · 02-10-2010, 09:04 PM

instead of all the mixing valves get yourself a thermostatic valve or 2, one for him and one for her and use volume controls for the heads. it looks better than having a crapload of big shower trims all over the shower.

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OldSchool · 02-10-2010, 09:06 PM

you should put in some body spray while you are at it

**Bill** · 02-10-2010, 09:08 PM

That looks impressive! I done something similar not long ago. But in your pix I only see one mixing valve. Thats ok if both people want the same temp. I prefer 2 mixing valves this way they both can shower with each one set to their own preference.

house plumber · 02-10-2010, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill

That looks impressive! I done something similar not long ago. But in your pix I only see one mixing valve. Thats ok if both people want the same temp. I prefer 2 mixing valves this way they both can shower with each one set to their own preference.

thanks, but yeah i know i would prefer 2 as well but the ho only wanted one

**Bill** · 02-10-2010, 09:28 PM

True! All we can do is suggest. Same happens when I build a house. The HO can not understand what the finished product will look like. Then when its done they wish they did listen!

winslow · 02-11-2010, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill

We are putting an addition on my boss's house which includes a master bathroom. The shower will be 5' wide by 6'6" deep. There was to be two mixing valves on the 6'6" wall (His and hers shower) I had planned on dividing 6'6" by three which is 2'2". So, I will have 2'2" from the back wall to the center of the first valve, then 2'2" from center of valve one to valve 2. That will leave 2'2" from the center of the second valve to the shower door. This to me seems to be quite comfortable with two people in there. I mentioned to the boss's wife that when I do my shower I am installing my shower head in the ceiling. Now she wants one. No biggie except my boss wants 3 mixing valves now! 2 will be for the wall heads and one for the ceiling head. So 6'6" divided by 4 is 1'7" center to center! That means they will be shoulder to shoulder in there! My solution is to just use 2 mixing valves with 2'2" centers, then install a diverter valve to switch from the wall head to the ceiling head. This way it will eliminate one mixing valve and keep clearance between the 2 other valves.

WWYD?

with 2 valves I usually divide the space by four, remember with 2 people standing in there the clearance between the two is cut in half. You can either use a diverter or a temp mixing valve with 2 volume controls. 99% of the houses we do use mixing valves with volume controls in the master bath.

Miguel · 02-11-2010, 01:47 AM

Winslows advice seems spot on, Bill.
It goes along with what you were suggesting, too.

But yeah, body sprays all around is a good idea as well.

Just remember your balancing loops. Shouldn't be too hard on two mixing valves.

fhrace · 02-11-2010, 02:38 AM

I'm just a novice when it comes to these complicated showers but I can't figure out how all of those "volume controls" work and of course the balancing loops it seems there are pipes going every where.

fhrace · 02-11-2010, 02:38 AM

House plumber do you have finished pictures?

02-10-2010, 08:54 PM	#1
Bill Moderator Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: I have no idea! Posts: 5,867 My Photos	Boss's house We are putting an addition on my boss's house which includes a master bathroom. The shower will be 5' wide by 6'6" deep. There was to be two mixing valves on the 6'6" wall (His and hers shower) I had planned on dividing 6'6" by three which is 2'2". So, I will have 2'2" from the back wall to the center of the first valve, then 2'2" from center of valve one to valve 2. That will leave 2'2" from the center of the second valve to the shower door. This to me seems to be quite comfortable with two people in there. I mentioned to the boss's wife that when I do my shower I am installing my shower head in the ceiling. Now she wants one. No biggie except my boss wants 3 mixing valves now! 2 will be for the wall heads and one for the ceiling head. So 6'6" divided by 4 is 1'7" center to center! That means they will be shoulder to shoulder in there! My solution is to just use 2 mixing valves with 2'2" centers, then install a diverter valve to switch from the wall head to the ceiling head. This way it will eliminate one mixing valve and keep clearance between the 2 other valves. WWYD? __________________ Virginia Plumbing Codes Virginia Department of Licensing Ones intellect can often be summed up by his own words Everything in the known universe is governed by "Cause and Effect", there is no getting around it. Think about what you do before you do it.

02-10-2010, 09:08 PM	#4
Bill Moderator Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: I have no idea! Posts: 5,867 My Photos	That looks impressive! I done something similar not long ago. But in your pix I only see one mixing valve. Thats ok if both people want the same temp. I prefer 2 mixing valves this way they both can shower with each one set to their own preference. __________________ Virginia Plumbing Codes Virginia Department of Licensing Ones intellect can often be summed up by his own words Everything in the known universe is governed by "Cause and Effect", there is no getting around it. Think about what you do before you do it.

02-10-2010, 09:28 PM	#6
Bill Moderator Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: I have no idea! Posts: 5,867 My Photos	True! All we can do is suggest. Same happens when I build a house. The HO can not understand what the finished product will look like. Then when its done they wish they did listen! __________________ Virginia Plumbing Codes Virginia Department of Licensing Ones intellect can often be summed up by his own words Everything in the known universe is governed by "Cause and Effect", there is no getting around it. Think about what you do before you do it.

02-11-2010, 01:47 AM	#8
Miguel Drained Professional Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sunset Country, Ontario Posts: 709 My Photos	Winslows advice seems spot on, Bill. It goes along with what you were suggesting, too. But yeah, body sprays all around is a good idea as well. Just remember your balancing loops. Shouldn't be too hard on two mixing valves. __________________ *BOOM-diyada! Life is good!*

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02-10-2010, 09:04 PM	#2
house plumber HI Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Port Richey,Fl Posts: 3,083 My Photos	instead of all the mixing valves get yourself a thermostatic valve or 2, one for him and one for her and use volume controls for the heads. it looks better than having a crapload of big shower trims all over the shower. 100_0268.jpg 100_0265.jpg 100_0266.jpg 100_0267.jpg

02-10-2010, 09:06 PM	#3
OldSchool SharkBite Certified Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 3,606 My Photos	you should put in some body spray while you are at it

02-11-2010, 02:38 AM	#9
fhrace Plumbing Apprentice Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 127 My Photos	I'm just a novice when it comes to these complicated showers but I can't figure out how all of those "volume controls" work and of course the balancing loops it seems there are pipes going every where.

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