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retired rooter · 01-27-2010, 09:51 PM

I cant remember the scores, but the math on both tests about got me, math was my weakness.But after 3 trys on JM, 2 on Master but I got um, way back in 70s

plumber boy · 02-05-2010, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMaster

Doesn't bother me that much. Just because a guy has a license doesn't mean he can plumb,it just gives him the right to plumb. .

thats the problem, it gives everybody else a bum wrap......

niteowl · 03-10-2010, 10:11 PM

don't know which state you live in but here in florida i believe it's truelly hard to pass the state license test now. now it takes 2 days of testing with 4 parts and you have to pass all 4 parts. i believe 16 hours of testing. thank the lord i took it back when i could remember what i had for lunch. i got a 57 97 98 test scores but back then they averaged your test scores so i passed with a 84. i take my hat off to anyone who can pass the test today.

i also agree with those that say that the license doesn't make you a good plumber or a good business owner. that is only told to you by your customers.

M5Plumb · 03-11-2010, 01:36 AM

Can you say bonding litigation???

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Originally Posted by Plumbus

Whether the test was easy or hard is now irrelevant with entry into the contracting end of the trade now being almost automatic. Increased competition, especially from people who don't know how to run a business, is definitely not a good thing, especially in these times.

Mike Jessome · 03-12-2010, 04:09 PM

I know some guys that just barely passed the test and can outplumb other guys that near aced it by far

beavercreekhc · 03-14-2010, 10:08 PM

ya iowa does make the state license easy to obtain as of last year, but i've noticed that a lot of these cities have become more strict on the plumbing and mechanical contractors to get rid of some of those guys who just "paid" for the license. there is a lot of loop holes yet in the state license that hopefully get worked out and i think it will be a great thing. heak of a lot better paying for a license in each city for both mech and plumbing every year. just can't wait til the state issues the contractor license.

907plumber · 03-16-2010, 03:22 AM

Here in Alaska we have to jump through some hoops and go through the process to get our licenses.

Step 1. You have to be accepted and enrolled in a Federal licensed Apprenticeship program.

Step 2. Complete 8000 hours of OJT, then pass the state test to get your Journeyman card. this allows you to work all across the state except the municipality of Anchorage.

Step 3. Obtain your state card, work 2000 more hours and obtain your Municipality license.

Step 4. Hold your Journeyman cards for 2 years, Get 3 forms of qualification signed and notarized by Mechanical industry proffessionals verifing your experience and qualifications , then take another test to get your state administrators license. then you can take your municipality administrators. But the first one is only residential endorsement. After that you continue to rack hours then move through two more levels of endorsment finally reaching your unlimited license.

The system we have here is a real bear to get through, but Im glad we have it. Really helps weed out the competition. And makes our licenses very valuable.

Without this system I wouldn't have got the job I have today. I just wish that our enforcement would step it up. These requirements are grossly ignored and you constantly see just journeyman or worse yet handymen advertising on craigslist for plumbing jobs.

Anyway Id be ticked if they made this system more lax than what it is.

That federal apprentice thing just took effect when I started. Theres still a few Career apprentices out there who got grandfathered in

01-27-2010, 09:51 PM	#11
retired rooter Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 497 My Photos	I cant remember the scores, but the math on both tests about got me, math was my weakness.But after 3 trys on JM, 2 on Master but I got um, way back in 70s __________________ rode hard put up wet Last edited by retired rooter; 01-27-2010 at 09:53 PM..

03-10-2010, 10:11 PM	#13
niteowl Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: fort lauderdale Posts: 22 My Photos	don't know which state you live in but here in florida i believe it's truelly hard to pass the state license test now. now it takes 2 days of testing with 4 parts and you have to pass all 4 parts. i believe 16 hours of testing. thank the lord i took it back when i could remember what i had for lunch. i got a 57 97 98 test scores but back then they averaged your test scores so i passed with a 84. i take my hat off to anyone who can pass the test today.i also agree with those that say that the license doesn't make you a good plumber or a good business owner. that is only told to you by your customers.

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03-12-2010, 04:09 PM	#15
Mike Jessome Residential Plumber Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 80 My Photos	I know some guys that just barely passed the test and can outplumb other guys that near aced it by far

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beavercreekhc Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Iowa Posts: 52 My Photos	ya iowa does make the state license easy to obtain as of last year, but i've noticed that a lot of these cities have become more strict on the plumbing and mechanical contractors to get rid of some of those guys who just "paid" for the license. there is a lot of loop holes yet in the state license that hopefully get worked out and i think it will be a great thing. heak of a lot better paying for a license in each city for both mech and plumbing every year. just can't wait til the state issues the contractor license.

03-16-2010, 03:22 AM	#17
907plumber Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Eagle River, alaska Posts: 120 My Photos	Here in Alaska we have to jump through some hoops and go through the process to get our licenses. Step 1. You have to be accepted and enrolled in a Federal licensed Apprenticeship program. Step 2. Complete 8000 hours of OJT, then pass the state test to get your Journeyman card. this allows you to work all across the state except the municipality of Anchorage. Step 3. Obtain your state card, work 2000 more hours and obtain your Municipality license. Step 4. Hold your Journeyman cards for 2 years, Get 3 forms of qualification signed and notarized by Mechanical industry proffessionals verifing your experience and qualifications , then take another test to get your state administrators license. then you can take your municipality administrators. But the first one is only residential endorsement. After that you continue to rack hours then move through two more levels of endorsment finally reaching your unlimited license. The system we have here is a real bear to get through, but Im glad we have it. Really helps weed out the competition. And makes our licenses very valuable. Without this system I wouldn't have got the job I have today. I just wish that our enforcement would step it up. These requirements are grossly ignored and you constantly see just journeyman or worse yet handymen advertising on craigslist for plumbing jobs. Anyway Id be ticked if they made this system more lax than what it is. That federal apprentice thing just took effect when I started. Theres still a few Career apprentices out there who got grandfathered in