3KP

First off! Congrads! On getting your license.

But you have to understand from my stand point.

I now have over 13 years in plumbing from my first day of plumbing school they spoke of doing away with the lead joint. (13 years ago) I remember clear as day. But in school we did lead joints and copper project, Which we got graded on as you did (pass-fail), But still had to do it for the state test. We didn't do a plastic project back then. Curious of what the plastic project consist of.

Then there is a guy telling me they are open book test now with no pratical? I was like WTF! Are they just giving them a way!

If I read this correctly you didn't have to do draw diagrams of the plumbing with the red, blue, and black pencils? Just got to tell them what you are looking at?

Not trying to start anything with you or anyone I just have a passion for this and wish our state felt the same way.

Wait until you have more than a decade in plumbing and own your own business your veiw points might be more like mine. ( I'm not sure how strict the officer of licensing verifcation is in your area, They down right suck in my area.) So many unmarked vehicles at the plumbing suppliers with enough pipe on them to plumb 2-3 houses. I know for a fact 2 of them are not license plumbers and been reported on several time and sh*t doen't happen to them.

I'm just fed up with our system.

I wish we were more like Illinois system it would cut down on the hacks!

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ILPlumber

No you don't. IL Dept. of Public Health now has 9 inspectors in the field for the entire state sans Chicago.

How many jobs do you think they see?

3KP

Let me see umm I believe that is 5 more than we have. the 4 we have only 1 to cover plumbing the other 3 cover beauty shops and barbers.. I think I would take the other 5 in a heart beat... That's at least what the main man down in the office told me (NOT ENOUGH MAN POWER) So hire some one....I told him

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Master Mark

I live in indiana too and I know what you are talking about....
just about anyone can claim to be a plumber and get away with it...

you can start a company here and only have
to work under some-ones lisc,
anyone who will rent you their masters lisc. and let you work
under it, . and you are in business , its been going on for years

you see some of the slop that they pass here,
you can basically run a whole 5 bathroom house off just one 1 1/2 vent stack..
with studor vents under the kitchen sink , ect ect ....basically anything goes...


and it makes it a lot harder when someone quotes a
40 gallon rheem gas heater installed for 500 and they
pull up in a plain unmarked van with no lic numbers on it.....


I dont know how they are insured unless its under general contractor...


Now if you want to really start some fun,
call the local TV stations and tell them the
story and have them run a sting on
a bunch of these "jack-leg contractors"

right now in this town their are probably close to 2000 plumbers
that have been laid off and will do any side jobs for almost nothing

you know what I am talking about ..
they were bragging about the union and the 50 bucks an hour
with perks and benefits two years ago, now they are on the bench.

now they are hurting big time aand will do anything.....
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it cost about 600 per semester here for your apprentice training...
I feel that they do a good job but usually 75%of the kids that
go to class drop out ,


and my experience was even with me willing to pay
for the class 100%...they still walked away from it...!!!.
I dont understand it.....and never will......


If you have the apprentice card you are supposed to be
doing the class, but no one enforces that either..

Becasue it seems that the idiots are not willing to buckle down
long enough to finish the class training anyway...



So not much is being enforced here these days....

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pdxplumber

I went to apprenticeship school for 4 years. About $ 1000.00 per year. 8000 hrs in the field. When I went to take my test they had just changed it. I was one of the first to take the new test. Open book, multiple choice. Something like 150 questions. It took me about forty minutes and they give you two hours. I was pissed.

helpsy

Absolutely anyone can call themselves a plumber in the UK and be totally legal in doing so!!!!!!!!

boatcaptplumber

why is it ok for the building trades, especially plumbing to get screwed with??? and when did everyone fall out of bed and have a pipe wrench land in there hand?

What would happen if they eased the restrictions to become a cardiologist or a nuclear physicist?

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Indie

It was quite a surprise to see such an old thread resurrected. I would say that building trades are messed with because in the grand scheme of things they are not on the same level as a Dr. or nuclear physicist.

seanny deep

Here You need 6000 hours on the job working with à qualified journeyman and à minimum of 25 weeks of in class school need à minimum of 70% just to write your red seal interprovincial. If You pass that then, your journeyman must sign off stating that to the best of his knowlegde You are fit to work on your own. after that your à certified plumber, in every province within canada. I did mine first time but it was far From easy. I got 82% on my gas class b exam and 78% on my red seal.. i worked mu ass off to get that .. what is entitled Where You are to get your ticket? Thanks seanny

rbaduy_tata

here in north carolina, i had to face with the board of examiner. they will ask about the time experience. they will prorated my time..in plumbing, hvac which i have h3c1, electrical and carpentry. two years as asst. mechanic and four years of as mechanic. but 500hrs ot /year because of on call emergency.but i work in agency 16years start from the bottom to up. no schooling on tech schools. just good old fashion read and actual. please help me how they will prorated my time. so i can calculate 4000hrs on hvac, 4000hrs on plumbing. thank you for any help.....