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TheMaster · 07-01-2009, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron The Plumber

That is Kentucky Codes in those pictures, not Oregon

Here is the code and what it says.

Section 9. Change of Direction. A change in direction of a sewer shall be
made with long curves, forty-five (45) degree wyes, half wyes, quarter, sixth,
eighth or sixteenth bends or sanitary tees installed on their back or on their sides at an angle of not more than forty-five (45) degrees.

Maybe they mean 45 degrees from vertical AND rolled left and right. Setting the tee in the vertical position...lean the tee on its back no more than 45 degrees and/or roll it no more than 45 degrees left and right. All of that would still be considered vertical.

**Ron** · 07-02-2009, 12:09 AM

Yea sure. Are you sure about Kentucky Codes?

TheMaster · 07-02-2009, 12:21 AM

[quote=Ron The Plumber;48453]Yea sure. Are you sure about Kentucky Codes]
I'm not sure but i know thats how I read the portion of the code you posted. Maybe they are interpreting it differently in Kentucky. The code is interpreted differently by different inspectors.....I've things turned down before because the inspector had never seen it done that way and automatically assumed it was wrong. I would love to propose the question to a Kentucky inspector. Most codes consider 45 degrees as the break angle between vertical and horizontal and changes in direction. So why wouldn't it apply to that portion of the code? They start out saying long curves and end up saying sanitary tees......wtf? sant. tee doesn't have a long curve at all.

**Ron** · 07-02-2009, 12:24 AM

I don't know how to read that code, but the pictures tell a story, how would you like to be the drain cleaner on those drains?

TheMaster · 07-02-2009, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron The Plumber

I don't know how to read that code, but the pictures tell a story, how would you like to be the drain cleaner on those drains?

I dont like to see those tight bends is all. It ruins your cables if your not super careful and just makes the job harder. Work is work i guess,I hate all clogged drains really! Ive seen a 3x1.5 sant tee for a lavatory get clogged up in the 3" portion. It just keeps building at the sweep in the tee until the entire vent and drain is closed off. Go on the roof and drop your cable down the stack and unclogg it in 5 seconds. thats in the vertical position also!!!!!

**Matt** · 07-02-2009, 05:33 AM

I'm prolly wrong, but I can't see a san tee on it's back approved for recieving waste approved under any code.

I'm going to have to look it up if I can find KY code.

Proud Plumber · 07-03-2009, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ILPlumber

I'm prolly wrong, but I can't see a san tee on it's back approved for recieving waste approved under any code.

I'm going to have to look it up if I can find KY code.

We are actually allowed to do it here. I am not saying I agree with that use, but we are allowed install them on there backs.

Protech · 07-03-2009, 11:02 AM

Uhhhhh, you sure bout that buddy? go back and look at the table in post #94. That's Florida code. Can't put san tees on their backs in FL

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Originally Posted by Proud Plumber

We are actually allowed to do it here. I am not saying I agree with that use, but we are allowed install them on there backs.

Proud Plumber · 07-03-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Protech

Uhhhhh, you sure bout that buddy? go back and look at the table in post #94. That's Florida code. Can't put san tees on their backs in FL

I am sure about that. I do agree with you and cannot dispute our code. However, I can walk you through roughly 600 homes in one development that have kitchen sinks where the plumbing contractor installed san tees on there backs for studor vents just to name one example off the top of my head. All of which were completed after that code was printed. Again, not saying agree with it but it is allowed or perhaps better worded they get away with it...

Protech · 07-03-2009, 02:43 PM

It's against the written code but the inspectors didn't catch it or don't care. I can show you 100s of homes that have combonation/waste vent system with disposals to. Still against code.

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Ron Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In Cyber Space Posts: 7,754 My Photos	Yea sure. Are you sure about Kentucky Codes? __________________ I'm Sorry. My Fault. I Forgot You Were An Idiot

07-02-2009, 12:21 AM	#133
TheMaster Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,091 My Photos	[quote=Ron The Plumber;48453]Yea sure. Are you sure about Kentucky Codes] I'm not sure but i know thats how I read the portion of the code you posted. Maybe they are interpreting it differently in Kentucky. The code is interpreted differently by different inspectors.....I've things turned down before because the inspector had never seen it done that way and automatically assumed it was wrong. I would love to propose the question to a Kentucky inspector. Most codes consider 45 degrees as the break angle between vertical and horizontal and changes in direction. So why wouldn't it apply to that portion of the code? They start out saying long curves and end up saying sanitary tees......wtf? sant. tee doesn't have a long curve at all. Last edited by TheMaster; 07-02-2009 at 12:23 AM..

07-02-2009, 12:24 AM	#134
Ron Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In Cyber Space Posts: 7,754 My Photos	I don't know how to read that code, but the pictures tell a story, how would you like to be the drain cleaner on those drains? __________________ I'm Sorry. My Fault. I Forgot You Were An Idiot

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Protech Super pex man Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Polk County, Florida Posts: 4,931 My Photos	It's against the written code but the inspectors didn't catch it or don't care. I can show you 100s of homes that have combonation/waste vent system with disposals to. Still against code. __________________ Plumber, Repiping, Replumbing, Leak Detection, Solar Water Heater, Drain Cleaner, Pipe Leak, Polk County Plumber, Lakeland Plumber, Winter Haven Plumber, Haines City Plumber, Bartow Plumber

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07-02-2009, 05:33 AM	#136
Matt Bourgeoisie Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,114 My Photos	I'm prolly wrong, but I can't see a san tee on it's back approved for recieving waste approved under any code. I'm going to have to look it up if I can find KY code.

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