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Apparently, the value is in the eye of the beholder. I just found another card for someone doing plumbing. It might amaze some people, just how ignorant people are about plumbing and licenses here. I would over to deluge the State with emails and letter from licensed plumbers protesting the abuses, but most are to damn lazy to even care. They figure it won't get anything done anyway so why bother.

DUNBAR PLUMBING

That's a shame. I like indiana, a lot. I would move there because of how nice it is. But I have such a network where I'm at that I'll never find everything that close knit across the river.

You can buy land reasonably cheap over there in indiana but everyone that's moved from KY to indiana, moves back because of the commute for everything they thought they could find where they move to.

Amazing how people align to their creature comforts.

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Master Mark

DUNBAR...

What happens with hardware stores
like Lowes in Kentucky???

Do they force people to use a plumber to install
the heaters for you??? Do they sell heaters in Kentucky
and do they make them take out permits???

how is this enforced??

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Master Mark

their are probably thousands of plumbers laid off in this state,
so there are a lot of jack-legs out there doing
side work..

some people will go the cheap jack leg route and I dont need those customers anyway...

but most still want someone that has
been in business a long tims and is insured.....

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DUNBAR PLUMBING

Nope. Anyone can install their own water heater. They sometimes make you sign a piece of paper but no one could make you prove what you write is accurate, or verified.

Just that piece of paper has deterred a few though...as I heard that was the case with one company that was doing that type of work and got dinged for doing so.

They keep laying off those who police the system...well is running dry.

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Master Mark

the well is running dry, and I guess the people that
do good work will just have to police themselves..

and all of the jack legs out there will just give
the rest of us a bad name.

as long as you are in good with the
BBB and Angies list you will probably be ok...

they are about the only ones out there policeing anybody

Here you send in your final inspection ticket for a plumbing j ob
and that is about it.... no one ever shows back up to see how it
all turned out.

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3KP

Police it ourselfs lol heck Mark if you report anything they don't do anything about it. For instance I see a certian plumbing truck almost everyday. It has their company name and phone # on it but thas no PC # any where I called it in 3 times and gave them the address where this truck is parked at every morning and the truck still looks the same for the past year!

Their excuse is we don't have the man power to inforce it! Bull Sh*t! to F-ing lazy to do anything about it or got there pockets lined from the company to turn there heads and look the other way!

If I was in office Indiana hacks would not be happy!!

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Master Mark

I think that they only make 25k per year what I heard last.. so you would have to take a drastic pay cut..

It might be a great place for someone elderly,
or disabled who could not do physical labor...
they rarely get out of their cars and actually inspect
anything more than to sign off on a permit...


presently their is an appliance store that has an add in the
yellow pages and is selling water heaters right next to my
add now, and they have no plumbing lic# in the add.. l
ITS THE LAW to have that in your add


I would have better luck yelling at
yellow pages over turning them in to the city

But Yellow pages are a
bunch of whores who will look the other way cause
these guys are paying at least 1500 per month for the add.

so what do y ou do??

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ILPlumber

You guys have no luck through the Indiana Professional Licensing Agency?

I must admit, I have done quite alot of work over there. Not once, have I seen an inspector.

Master Mark

like I stated its all the honor system....

we do mostly service so their is no real reason
for me to ever see them,,,

when you go into a huge New 5 bathroom home
and see only one 1 1/2 pvc vent out the roof...
it pretty much tells you how the place was plumbed...


its nice that you dont have to get a full 3 inch vent out
the roof and cut up the home, but to me, one small vent is not enough...




One of the more nasty things I see in the new homes

no vents at all to kitchen sinks...,, you just got to run
a 3 inch pvc drain line over to it in the concrete and then
reduce it down to 2 inch into the floor of the cabinet,
and that is ok.... with no studor vent either....



we see this all the time and when that 3 inch line
needs to have years of grease cut out of it that will be fun....

whatever....

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