I'mYourDamnTourGuide about your code. - Plumbing Zone

Ron · 06-24-2008, 02:15 AM

I'mYourDamnTourGuide you say you have your own code, is there no code book, reason I ask after looking at your picture album alot of things I see in them, is wild, lets of santee's, med turn 90 here and there, most what I see would never be allowed here. I guess I'm lost in understanding how your code is set up. I see you use cpvc, do you like cpvc? You must since thats what I see.

I don't know, I'd hate to clean the lines with so many san-tees, fear cable could go the wrong way and hit a fixture or two.

I'mYourTourGuide · 06-24-2008, 02:23 AM

Kentucky has their ownw plumbing code.

They have trap to vent distances, MDL on vents and drain, minimum house sewer/drain requirements and a minimum of 1, 3" vent through roof.

Vent through roof can be off-set at and angle of 45 degrees and no more (i.e. 90 degrees because 90 would be a flat vent which is not permissible.

Inspectors here really look for the base of the vertical stack to be washed.

CPVC is the cheaper way to go for homeowners.

I installed that for a guy that was building a new house and wanted the cheaper material, but good stuff. . .like not dirt cheap, but cheapER. .

CPVC doesn't sweat, but it expands and contrasts still.

Copper sweats and takes a lot longer to pipe in.

Rotted stem walls are baddddddddd.

GrumpyPlumber · 06-24-2008, 10:29 AM

Here it is:

http://ohbc.ky.gov/NR/rdonlyres/5CB20FD7-46DA-47DC-B786-39166A68CD9F/0/KENTUCKYplb2007.pdf

I have a friend from other forums that is a plumber in KY, he showed me this.
Still working on getting him to join here.

Ron · 06-24-2008, 10:53 AM

Here it is, it I did not see it with my own eyes, I would have never believed it.

Section 9. Change of Direction. A change in direction of a sewer shall be
made with long curves, forty-five (45) degree wyes, half wyes, quarter, sixth,
eighth or sixteenth bends or sanitary tees installed on their back or on their sides at an angle of not more than forty-five (45) degrees.

22rifle · 06-24-2008, 10:59 AM

WOW!

At least he is following code.

But that code stinks.

GrumpyPlumber · 06-24-2008, 04:26 PM

It is our duty to teach that poor boy some good plumbing folks.

Just kiddin' TourGuide...welcome to the forum.

GrumpyPlumber · 06-24-2008, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I'mYourTourGuide

Kentucky has their ownw plumbing code.

They have trap to vent distances, MDL on vents and drain, minimum house sewer/drain requirements and a minimum of 1, 3" vent through roof.

Vent through roof can be off-set at and angle of 45 degrees and no more (i.e. 90 degrees because 90 would be a flat vent which is not permissible.

Inspectors here really look for the base of the vertical stack to be washed.

CPVC is the cheaper way to go for homeowners.

I installed that for a guy that was building a new house and wanted the cheaper material, but good stuff. . .like not dirt cheap, but cheapER. .

CPVC doesn't sweat, but it expands and contrasts still.

Copper sweats and takes a lot longer to pipe in.

Rotted stem walls are baddddddddd.

CPVC DOES sweat, as does PEX...I know of several plumbers that pitched that as a feature to install it and were met with callbacks as soon as the muggy summer months came along.
Observe a plastic coke bottle in the summer.
Also, CPVC cuts noise, but not by much...CPVC cannot handle frost, it'll burst, only PEX can.
Given a choice between the two, I prefer CVPC only for the reason that I don't like the current types of fittings/connections for PEX.
Given the choice overall...I'd only use copper, but I'd spend alotta time at home if I bid everything copper only.
We have local code authorities to thank for that, as soon as something cheap is approved, your all but obligated to use it or lose your shirt.

22rifle · 06-24-2008, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrumpyPlumber

I don't like the current types of fittings/connections for PEX.

Uponor APR or Reahau Everlock!

Alan · 06-24-2008, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron The Plumber

or sanitary tees installed on their back

/end post

Ron · 06-24-2008, 11:49 PM

Keep in mind, Oregon does allow a santee on it's back but only in venting, but never drainage.

06-24-2008, 02:15 AM	#1
Ron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,635 My Photos	I'mYourDamnTourGuide about your code. I'mYourDamnTourGuide you say you have your own code, is there no code book, reason I ask after looking at your picture album alot of things I see in them, is wild, lets of santee's, med turn 90 here and there, most what I see would never be allowed here. I guess I'm lost in understanding how your code is set up. I see you use cpvc, do you like cpvc? You must since thats what I see. I don't know, I'd hate to clean the lines with so many san-tees, fear cable could go the wrong way and hit a fixture or two. __________________ Stephen Hawking: If the government is covering up knowledge of Aliens, they are doing a better job of it then they do at anything else.

06-24-2008, 10:53 AM	#4
Ron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,635 My Photos	Here it is, it I did not see it with my own eyes, I would have never believed it. Section 9. Change of Direction. A change in direction of a sewer shall be made with long curves, forty-five (45) degree wyes, half wyes, quarter, sixth, eighth or sixteenth bends or sanitary tees installed on their back or on their sides at an angle of not more than forty-five (45) degrees. __________________ Stephen Hawking: If the government is covering up knowledge of Aliens, they are doing a better job of it then they do at anything else.

06-24-2008, 11:49 PM	#10
Ron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,635 My Photos	Keep in mind, Oregon does allow a santee on it's back but only in venting, but never drainage. __________________ Stephen Hawking: If the government is covering up knowledge of Aliens, they are doing a better job of it then they do at anything else.

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06-24-2008, 02:23 AM	#2
I'mYourTourGuide Chase Plumber Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chase Wall Posts: 287 My Photos	Kentucky has their ownw plumbing code. They have trap to vent distances, MDL on vents and drain, minimum house sewer/drain requirements and a minimum of 1, 3" vent through roof. Vent through roof can be off-set at and angle of 45 degrees and no more (i.e. 90 degrees because 90 would be a flat vent which is not permissible. Inspectors here really look for the base of the vertical stack to be washed. CPVC is the cheaper way to go for homeowners. I installed that for a guy that was building a new house and wanted the cheaper material, but good stuff. . .like not dirt cheap, but cheapER. . CPVC doesn't sweat, but it expands and contrasts still. Copper sweats and takes a lot longer to pipe in. Rotted stem walls are baddddddddd.

06-24-2008, 10:29 AM	#3
GrumpyPlumber Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: MA Posts: 572 My Photos	Here it is: http://ohbc.ky.gov/NR/rdonlyres/5CB20FD7-46DA-47DC-B786-39166A68CD9F/0/KENTUCKYplb2007.pdf I have a friend from other forums that is a plumber in KY, he showed me this. Still working on getting him to join here.

06-24-2008, 10:59 AM	#5
22rifle Master Plumber Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,053 My Photos	WOW! At least he is following code. But that code stinks.

06-24-2008, 04:26 PM	#6
GrumpyPlumber Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: MA Posts: 572 My Photos	It is our duty to teach that poor boy some good plumbing folks. Just kiddin' TourGuide...welcome to the forum.