I.C.C. code VS. IAPMO - Page 3 - Plumbing Zone

ranman · 02-06-2010, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by smythers1968

Can you post a brand and model of the one aav that you are talking about that is not mechanical.

I'd like to see it

I have never seen one without moving parts inside

http://www.ipscorp.com/pdf/studor/St...Spec_Sep08.pdf

the ones every one thinks about are the black ones with a spring and a plunger that closes

smythers1968 · 02-06-2010, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ranman

http://www.ipscorp.com/pdf/studor/St...Spec_Sep08.pdf

the ones every one thinks about are the black ones with a spring and a plunger that closes

Under Features, letter A it states it has a membrane. To me that is still mechanical and the sealing membrane can fail.

ranman · 02-06-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by smythers1968

Under Features, letter A it states it has a membrane. To me that is still mechanical and the sealing membrane can fail.

i understand what your saying.

house plumber · 02-06-2010, 10:46 PM

everything fails. isn't that what gives service plumbers work?

plumber boy · 02-07-2010, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by smythers1968

UPC allows wet venting

Only a handyman uses a AAV. I have always found a way to vent without a POS AAV

Just my $.02

we do alot of homes that has windows all the way across the top of bath lavs. no way to vent other than auto vent, we do use the approved vents as well.

also some remodels we use them......

plumber boy · 02-07-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by smythers1968

UPC allows wet venting

it is only one fixture, or thats what it was when i used it, i have not plumbed with the upc for about 10 years, you can do complete bathroom groups with ipc.

ranman · 02-07-2010, 02:32 PM

IPC wet venting and combination drain and vent are the best. i really hate the upc flat vent!

the guys i work with only understand the upc as that is what the union teaches. when i talk about ipc ,they don`t believe it can be done that way.

some people will never accept new ways. but they better. every city inspect on ipc and not upc. the union is dead set against teaching the ipc. but they will have to someday or they will not be able to compete

jeffreyplumber · 02-07-2010, 02:46 PM

We all seem to be in our own little bubble. To think that a code used in your town is what is used everywhere is a bit off. UPC Is what is used where I live. I dont think IPC is used at all in my state. Dont really know for sure But I have never heard of IPC being used here. And weather I like it or not I use whatever code I am required to. Unless its not being inspected then it falls under jeff's code. I do whatever I feel like. As far as a studer vent. I heard of people using them here, even heard some inspectors alow them. As far as I know they are not legal , any where Ive ever worked. Would I use one hell yes in a pinch Why not? Because it might fail? Hell I guess I shouldnt use abs pipe because it might fail too! or copper, or pex, or anything!

ToUtahNow · 02-07-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffreyplumber

We all seem to be in our own little bubble. To think that a code used in your town is what is used everywhere is a bit off. UPC Is what is used where I live. I dont think IPC is used at all in my state. Dont really know for sure But I have never heard of IPC being used here. And weather I like it or not I use whatever code I am required to. Unless its not being inspected then it falls under jeff's code. I do whatever I feel like. As far as a studer vent. I heard of people using them here, even heard some inspectors alow them. As far as I know they are not legal , any where Ive ever worked. Would I use one hell yes in a pinch Why not? Because it might fail? Hell I guess I shouldnt use abs pipe because it might fail too! or copper, or pex, or anything!

The State of California has adopted the UPC as the CPC so you won't see the IPC in California at all.

Most of the States where I work use the UPC but I am certified by both the ICC and the IAMPO as an Inspector.

Mark

jeffreyplumber · 02-08-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ToUtahNow

The State of California has adopted the UPC as the CPC so you won't see the IPC in California at all.

Most of the States where I work use the UPC but I am certified by both the ICC and the IAMPO as an Inspector.

Mark

I thought we only had UPC, So then a studor vent cant be used any where in the state. at least in homes or buildings. I think trailers or mobile homes might allow it.

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house plumber HI Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Port Richey,Fl Posts: 3,084 My Photos	everything fails. isn't that what gives service plumbers work?

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ranman The Pipe Whisperer Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: gilbert az Posts: 390 My Photos	IPC wet venting and combination drain and vent are the best. i really hate the upc flat vent! the guys i work with only understand the upc as that is what the union teaches. when i talk about ipc ,they don`t believe it can be done that way. some people will never accept new ways. but they better. every city inspect on ipc and not upc. the union is dead set against teaching the ipc. but they will have to someday or they will not be able to compete

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jeffreyplumber Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: highland ca Posts: 237 My Photos	We all seem to be in our own little bubble. To think that a code used in your town is what is used everywhere is a bit off. UPC Is what is used where I live. I dont think IPC is used at all in my state. Dont really know for sure But I have never heard of IPC being used here. And weather I like it or not I use whatever code I am required to. Unless its not being inspected then it falls under jeff's code. I do whatever I feel like. As far as a studer vent. I heard of people using them here, even heard some inspectors alow them. As far as I know they are not legal , any where Ive ever worked. Would I use one hell yes in a pinch Why not? Because it might fail? Hell I guess I shouldnt use abs pipe because it might fail too! or copper, or pex, or anything!