hard piping traps - Page 3 - Plumbing Zone

TheMaster · 01-18-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron The Plumber

Sounds like the flu to me, we can't have you sick, maybe you need to go see the doc.

I am the DR., Themaster and some peoples daddy even tho i dont have kids.

Ron · 01-18-2010, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill

I am all for the tubular style. While I agree with those who say the hard pipe stays together better and longer I myself have never had any problems with the tubular's coming apart. Now, I do however after installing them fill the sink to overflow with hot water, then pulling the stopper. The hot water will soften the plastic and allow me to tighten the nuts even farther, thus when it cools it shrinks which creates a tighter seal.

I'm with you Bill on this 100%

TheMaster · 01-18-2010, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill

I am all for the tubular style. While I agree with those who say the hard pipe stays together better and longer I myself have never had any problems with the tubular's coming apart. Now, I do however after installing them fill the sink to overflow with hot water, then pulling the stopper. The hot water will soften the plastic and allow me to tighten the nuts even farther, thus when it cools it shrinks which creates a tighter seal.

What happens when the homeowner pours some boiling water from some pasta they cooked? The expansion and contraction is why exactly why those plastic tubular wastes leak.....the nuts loosen themselves. They just have a higher leak percentage period and its nothing that can be done to prevent it. It does not like to be bumped and it doesn't like hot water at all. I say if your going tubular on me....do it with atleast 17 ga brass

Please dont go tubular

Everybody has there "way" and thats cool as well,it keeps me busy

. I've used the tubular plastic before...all different types and its just not as reliable as sch.40 solvent. I shoot for 100 percent reliability with repair...the more places i can eleminate a possible leak....I do it. I do this with everything I work on.

Killertoiletspider · 01-18-2010, 10:32 PM

I think all the fans of hard piping sink wastes would change their tune if they had to do it in copper as opposed to lick it and stick it pipe. One slip with the torch and you are explaining to the homeowner how that burn mark got on their cherrywood cabinetry.

Ron · 01-18-2010, 10:33 PM

Where is hilgore when you need him.

Plumbworker · 01-18-2010, 10:48 PM

i cant install plastic.. 17ga tube for residential and hard pipe copper for commercial

TheMaster · 01-18-2010, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Killertoiletspider

I think all the fans of hard piping sink wastes would change their tune if they had to do it in copper as opposed to lick it and stick it pipe. One slip with the torch and you are explaining to the homeowner how that burn mark got on their cherrywood cabinetry.

I would gladly do it in copper if people would be willing to pay for the time and material it takes. It makes no difference to me. I will agree that copper will not come apart like the slip joint stuff. Anythings better than tubular plastic wastes. Name somthing worse than a tubular plastic end or center outlet low hookup waste for a kitchen sink...I cant.

**SlickRick** · 01-18-2010, 11:15 PM

I run fused acid waste piping on mine.

TheMaster · 01-18-2010, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by slickrick

I run fused acid waste piping on mine.

The grey stuff with wire snaked though the hub and two hook up's to fuse it with? .....Nice.

jeffreyplumber · 01-19-2010, 11:37 AM

Acid waste is also available in cpvc all glue same mold as pvc and abs, used it on Newport highschool science lab. And if you want to use abs you can get a glue in trap with union, so you dont have to cut it out. Agreed though you seldom need to remove.

01-18-2010, 10:33 PM	#25
Ron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,635 My Photos	Where is hilgore when you need him. __________________ Stephen Hawking: If the government is covering up knowledge of Aliens, they are doing a better job of it then they do at anything else.

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SlickRick Moderator Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gilmer, Texas Posts: 5,770 My Photos	I run fused acid waste piping on mine. __________________ "I believe human-beings and fist can co-exist peacefully....." GW

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Killertoiletspider Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,411 My Photos	I think all the fans of hard piping sink wastes would change their tune if they had to do it in copper as opposed to lick it and stick it pipe. One slip with the torch and you are explaining to the homeowner how that burn mark got on their cherrywood cabinetry.

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jeffreyplumber Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: highland ca Posts: 237 My Photos	Acid waste is also available in cpvc all glue same mold as pvc and abs, used it on Newport highschool science lab. And if you want to use abs you can get a glue in trap with union, so you dont have to cut it out. Agreed though you seldom need to remove.