Had it! Now what! - Page 2 - Plumbing Zone

tnoisaw · 07-02-2010, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Indie

Are you saying you know of people out there plumbing without a license, and you don't want to turn them in?

NO...sorta. They have a masters license with zero field experiance. Otherwise, they had someone sign off to let them test. I worked for such an outfit in Florida. No, I will not turn them in because as I said, it could affect too many families ability to pay the bills should they loose their jobs and I would rather live with the knowledge of knowing someone cheated the system rather than the knowledge that I was responsible for many people loosing their jobs.

kenneth · 07-05-2010, 11:49 PM

I am quick on the draw to turn people in. In Texas we have only 7 field members of the TSBPE to go across the entire state and catch "handyman" who do "light plumbing", so any time i see someone advertising this crap i send a written complaint to the board. Calling doesn't do a whole lot, but on paper they HAVE to check in on it.

luv2plumb · 07-06-2010, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kenneth

I am quick on the draw to turn people in. In Texas we have only 7 field members of the TSBPE to go across the entire state and catch "handyman" who do "light plumbing", so any time i see someone advertising this crap i send a written complaint to the board. Calling doesn't do a whole lot, but on paper they HAVE to check in on it.

I believe we have 12 now.....After Ike I ran into one in Galveston and asked how many they had that covered Texas

wundumguy · 07-06-2010, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BROOKLYN\PLUMB

The reason fellow master lic plumbers dont turn in those that arent is because they the ones signing off the jobs there not in competition there in colusion. I even compain to the phone books when they put so&so mechanical & piping under plumbing

It can be a big business in some parts. There's a local plumber that makes this his primary business. Most of it around here happens in the minority communities. A licensed plumber is paid to take out the permit and inspect the work before the city is called for inspection.

plumbear · 07-07-2010, 11:56 AM

In Arizona ( at least where I am) it seems the ROC is more concerned with trying to get licensed contractors for anything they can dream up than going after hacks. They act as if their purpose is putting licensed contractors out of business.

Tommy plumber · 08-19-2010, 05:18 PM

At least in FL a permit is req'd to install a backflow assembly. That should limit the work to licensed plumbers. If a permit isn't issued, when BF is tested and re-certified the following year, the test report's make, model and serial number won't match the previous year's test report. That's when red flags go up at water utilities dept and they start asking questions.

BROOKLYN\PLUMB · 08-20-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy plumber

At least in FL a permit is req'd to install a backflow assembly. That should limit the work to licensed plumbers. If a permit isn't issued, when BF is tested and re-certified the following year, the test report's make, model and serial number won't match the previous year's test report. That's when red flags go up at water utilities dept and they start asking questions.

thats not the problem the problem is the gc has the work done and then gets quotes on pulling permits and inspection so some (usually older) master plumbers can make money without working. Its a tough line to draw between covering for someone and legalizing a job that was done without permits

BF need permits and (separate from building plans) needs approved cross-connection plans and can even need dep. of health approved plans

Tommy plumber · 08-21-2010, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BROOKLYN\PLUMB

thats not the problem the problem is the gc has the work done and then gets quotes on pulling permits and inspection so some (usually older) master plumbers can make money without working. Its a tough line to draw between covering for someone and legalizing a job that was done without permits

BF need permits and (separate from building plans) needs approved cross-connection plans and can even need dep. of health approved plans

So some of those GC's think they're slick. I know a building contractor down here who has been giving me work (he mostly remodels baths and kitchens) and he used to have his men do the plumbing on his remodels. I told him if his guys ever flood someone's home, his insurance won't pay claim because he's working outside the scope of his license. And if dept. of business and professional regulation got wind of it, he could be spanked pretty hard.

pdxplumber · 08-25-2010, 03:00 AM

I just turned in some ******* a couple of days ago.

http://www.portlandplumbingplus.com/

No contractors license, no plumbing business license, no journeyman's license, no boiler license. The enforcement division said his time is about up. $4000 in fines and counting. I'll hold my breath and wait for his web site to disappear.

Associated Plum · 08-26-2010, 10:14 AM

We turned in a Master Plumber and within 6 months he had his license revoked.

The State inspectors do a pretty decent job of following up on complaints and catching the offenders, but there is only so much they can do with the manpower they have. IMO most of the local inspectors could care less.

07-05-2010, 11:49 PM	#12
kenneth Senior Idiot Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 29 My Photos	I am quick on the draw to turn people in. In Texas we have only 7 field members of the TSBPE to go across the entire state and catch "handyman" who do "light plumbing", so any time i see someone advertising this crap i send a written complaint to the board. Calling doesn't do a whole lot, but on paper they HAVE to check in on it. __________________ Say I Wont....Bich!!!

08-19-2010, 05:18 PM	#16
Tommy plumber Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 4,145 My Photos	At least in FL a permit is req'd to install a backflow assembly. That should limit the work to licensed plumbers. If a permit isn't issued, when BF is tested and re-certified the following year, the test report's make, model and serial number won't match the previous year's test report. That's when red flags go up at water utilities dept and they start asking questions. __________________ Hire a licensed master plumber. Last edited by Tommy plumber; 08-19-2010 at 09:53 PM..

08-26-2010, 10:14 AM	#20
Associated Plum Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Arkansas Posts: 497 My Photos	We turned in a Master Plumber and within 6 months he had his license revoked. The State inspectors do a pretty decent job of following up on complaints and catching the offenders, but there is only so much they can do with the manpower they have. IMO most of the local inspectors could care less. __________________ With over 60 years of service, chances are we have seen your friend's bathroom Associated Plumbers Inc. www.associatedplumbers.com http://twitter.com/assocplumbers Like our Page @ www.facebook.com/associated.plumbers

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07-07-2010, 11:56 AM	#15
plumbear Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 65 My Photos	In Arizona ( at least where I am) it seems the ROC is more concerned with trying to get licensed contractors for anything they can dream up than going after hacks. They act as if their purpose is putting licensed contractors out of business.

08-25-2010, 03:00 AM	#19
pdxplumber Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Portland OR Posts: 137 My Photos	I just turned in some ******* a couple of days ago. http://www.portlandplumbingplus.com/ No contractors license, no plumbing business license, no journeyman's license, no boiler license. The enforcement division said his time is about up. $4000 in fines and counting. I'll hold my breath and wait for his web site to disappear.