nhmaster3015

Sorry, but no. The fitting in that case is being used as a vent fitting, it does not receive waste through the outlet.

TM, a shower or bath tub on a 2nd floor is where this is most commonly done in order to keep the trap from hanging below the dry wall.

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TheMaster

Yes you are right...it is being used as a vent fitting and thats the part thats wrong IMO and bad plumbing. I consider the vent to start 6" above the flood level rim. If the drain cloggs it can back up into the vent....then you have waste water draining through a tee on its back....possibly clogging the vent...the vent maybe revented with no way to clear it.

nhmaster3015

But, using a wye and 1/8 bend or a combo fitting does not improve the condition any, if it's gonna plug, it's gonna plug. I can't see any other way to vent a tub or shower though. The beginning of the vent will always be below the flood level. If you take a look at older CI jobs done in the 40's and 50's you will commonly see san tees used for venting ( galvy ones also ) in the horizontal position.

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So your trying to tell me that a long sweep fitting is not better than a short radius sant tee and it doesn't matter which one you use if its gonna clogg it will clogg?

My vote is to use long sweep type fittings when below or within 6" of the flood level rim. It may not be much better but its better. I also Vote to have a cleanout installed if its not washed by a fixture.(if it was washed it needs to be long sweep..its part of the drainage)

Now would i use a sant tee if pushed into a corner?....sure I would Cant expect to rebuild an existing home to keep from using a san tee for a vent laid on its back....but i would make provisions so it could be cleaned if needed.

Now make it quit raining........ I have work to do and actually feel like doing it

nhmaster3015

No argument on the clean out or use of a combo fitting but that ain't what the question was. How long has it been raining? I'm heading down to Orlando next Thursday, hope it cools down a bit. My sister lives in the Sarasota area. Says its been hotter than the gates of hell down there.

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Florida 2007 plumbing code does not differentiate vent fittings....table 706.3 is titled change in direction. I dont see a list for vent fittings...there is a definition stating vertical to 6" above for a vent but thats not an endorsement for a tee on its back. I plumbed in Chicago and of course they allowed tees on the back for vent and at 45 with 1/8 bend for drainage...but you gonna have to show me in fl 07 any vent fittings.....from what is written that I've seen in the code (show me something else and I'll concede) an inspector is right to turn down a tee on its back where liquid passes thru the run.


Ive been thru it on pan drain issues etc...if the language is not there or clear...they go by the clearest available language in the code. That would be 706.3.

902.1 Vents. The materials and methods utilized for the construction and installation of venting systems shall comply with the applicable provisions of Section 702.

Section 7 dictates the materials and methods..slam dunk case.

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Are you going down to sarasota, FL to PSI mecca convention? Its from a tropical system that was in the Gulf. Its just been raining since this morning....but I have a hard bid in on the job I had scheduled and the rain will make it take twice as long.....so i cancelled it. Forcast says rain through monday i think....thunderstorms.

Have a safe trip...you should fit in well there....alot of northern people move to central and south fl....they still talk like yankees tho

artisancorp

In jeresy you can do this as long as it is serves an individual fixture and is a dry vent. as far as the post about lower than flood rim that part of the code is for horizontal vents and should be minimum 6" above the flood rim the 2" is a vertical dry vent

stillaround

Can someone show me in the Forida 2007 code any way whatsoever to infer a santee can be used on its back.......show me something anywhere in this code ....even some of the know it alls from out of state....educate me...just like all the inspectors here need educating...

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Protech

We are talking Florida code here, not NJ.

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