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Old 12-30-2016, 05:49 PM   #21
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Some of you guys act like you have never changed a set of brake pads or that it requires a special license to do so. Some shops are small enough that they do their own maintenance when they're slow, nothing wrong with that. Hopefully you have fired the guy already and don't ever plan on hiring him back.
There's a huge difference between me changing the brakes on my personal vehicle and me as an employer, a person in authority, the person responsible for his paycheck, "asking" him to do something illegal. I worked in the auto industry for years. I trust my work but would never do anyone elses brakes. I would never allow or expect an employee to break the law by working on company vehicles.
Let's change the scenario a bit. You ask a secretary for special favors because work is slow. You fire her because she calls you an idiot. What going to happen. YOU crossed a line with this employee asking him to break the law. What disturbs me most is after you hit someone you're not concerned about what could have happened only his disrespect.
Forget about firing him. If he was smart he'd quit and report you.
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Old 12-30-2016, 06:49 PM   #22
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There's a huge difference between me changing the brakes on my personal vehicle and me as an employer, a person in authority, the person responsible for his paycheck, "asking" him to do something illegal. I worked in the auto industry for years. I trust my work but would never do anyone elses brakes. I would never allow or expect an employee to break the law by working on company vehicles.
Let's change the scenario a bit. You ask a secretary for special favors because work is slow. You fire her because she calls you an idiot. What going to happen. YOU crossed a line with this employee asking him to break the law. What disturbs me most is after you hit someone you're not concerned about what could have happened only his disrespect.
Forget about firing him. If he was smart he'd quit and report you.
Your analogy makes a lot of assumptions and is asinine to the point of absurdity.

1. you ASSUME it is illegal
2. you're comparing BLOWJOBS to a brake job , really
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Old 12-31-2016, 12:10 AM   #23
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Your analogy makes a lot of assumptions and is asinine to the point of absurdity.

1. you ASSUME it is illegal
2. you're comparing BLOWJOBS to a brake job , really
I'm sorry if I made assumptions. Where I live you need to have spent a number of hours in an apprenticeship under a Journeyman, have a number of skills signed off then pass an exam. Then you are authorized to work on brakes unsupervised. Sound familiar? If you lost your job to a mechanic because he decided to start roughing in houses on the side where would the argument go. And btw I didn't mention any favors in particular. You ask you secretary for a neck rub, out for dinner, run to the dry cleaners etc you've crossed a line. The employer has authority over the worker and should be respected, as I said earlier, but when they are asked to do something that's they aren't trained for, aren't comfortable with etc they are put in a position they shouldn't have to de with.
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There's a huge difference between me changing the brakes on my personal vehicle and me as an employer, a person in authority, the person responsible for his paycheck, "asking" him to do something illegal. I worked in the auto industry for years. I trust my work but would never do anyone elses brakes. I would never allow or expect an employee to break the law by working on company vehicles.
Let's change the scenario a bit. You ask a secretary for special favors because work is slow. You fire her because she calls you an idiot. What going to happen. YOU crossed a line with this employee asking him to break the law. What disturbs me most is after you hit someone you're not concerned about what could have happened only his disrespect.
Forget about firing him. If he was smart he'd quit and report you.


Im only concerned with what could have happened. The entire altercation happened because i grounded the ****ing trailer immediately.
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Old 01-17-2017, 05:40 PM   #25
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This is so unfortunate.

Unfortunately, quality work trumps quantity. If your employee is a) insubordinate, b) hazardous due to his attitude, it should be a no brainer. Sometimes we have to wait until a tragedy occurs before we can rightly let an employee go, but definitely keep an eye out for similar behaviors with any future employees. Hopefully no one was seriously hurt during the accident.

Best of luck,

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Old 01-18-2017, 02:15 PM   #26
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Maybe you could pull him aside and discuss your concerns and put him on notice. That may have just been a defensive reaction from him. Explain that you prefer things done the way you want them and if he cant comply it may be time to part ways. Or you could fly off the handle and find a way to make him quit so you dont have to pay unemployment, we call that the Trump method.
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I know this is late . . . but, I remember long ago Mr.Biz would say fire him, but at your convenience.
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Turns out he was a millenial.


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Turns out his boss is a d#ck. Hire him as a plumber, fire him because he disagrees on how to perform a brake job, write him off as a person because of the year he was born. The generation before yours thought your generation were idiots.
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