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Old 12-09-2016, 10:51 AM   #11
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When were slow I keep the employees busy on equipment repair and upkeep
is he certified to do brakes on a heavy equipment trailer?? if not you will be liable for any deaths or damage done by the now faulty brakes, that goes for any other critical repair on equipment...minor repairs that dont constitute saftey are fine, but anything that ones life depends on, you better have a certified person fix it, and that goes for fall restraint equipment too...
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Old 12-09-2016, 10:54 AM   #12
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Yep, speaking to the boss that way sounds like he may be trying to get fired for unemployment. Put a permanent reprimand in his file, give him crap work to force him to quit, run low on work, etc. Anything but firing him.

You fire him you pay.

Even though you may be trying to do your employees a favor by letting them work "out of their trade", if someone ever gets hurt and the attorneys find out a "qualified" worker/mechanic was not used, you just lost a lawsuit and will be paying. He is a plumber not an electrician, dry wall hanger, H.V.A.C. tech, etc. None of these unless he is certified.
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No offense guys, but you are getting a little high and mighty here with the brake job thing. I get the liability issue and I do agree that it's a risk. As far as morale, I also get that plumbers don't always enjoy doing mechanic work. But you are acting like plumbers ALWAYS enjoy doing plumbing. But give a guy 25 hours a werk for two weeks and see how that morale goes then. It's a calculated risk and we all take some of them.


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No offense guys, but you are getting a little high and mighty here with the brake job thing. I get the liability issue and I do agree that it's a risk. As far as morale, I also get that plumbers don't always enjoy doing mechanic work. But you are acting like plumbers ALWAYS enjoy doing plumbing. But give a guy 25 hours a werk for two weeks and see how that morale goes then. It's a calculated risk and we all take some of them.


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Step one. He's fired. End of story. There is never a reason to tolerate an argumentative attitude from and employee...or employer. If that is where the dialogue resides, then an immediate separation is warranted.

Regarding maintenance. I believe there's nothing wrong with doing these things in house. We do a lot of maintenance projects around our shop. Sometimes just to fill out the time card, and most often because we know what needs to be addressed and can have it back in service sooner.


There is no set rule on this. It's different in every shop and different on every day within each shop. We have done complete overhaul's equipment in house, and also sent equipment out for inconsequential repairs. Sometimes what is right depends on what day of the week it is.
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We used to have a heating guy with a mechanics background - he would change brakes on trucks during slow times. I understand the loyalty to making sure everyone gets 40 hours, but he doesn't seem to appreciate it.
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He shouldn't have spoken disrespectfully. He should have politely told you that he wasn't a mechanic and refused the work. Then YOUR disrespect for HIS trade and the lives of those potentially hurt or killed by having uncertified work done on your equipment would be the subject of this post.
Your the boss, you deserve respect but that doesn't make you omnipotent
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He shouldn't have spoken disrespectfully. He should have politely told you that he wasn't a mechanic and refused the work. Then YOUR disrespect for HIS trade and the lives of those potentially hurt or killed by having uncertified work done on your equipment would be the subject of this post.
Your the boss, you deserve respect but that doesn't make you omnipotent


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Some of you guys act like you have never changed a set of brake pads or that it requires a special license to do so. Some shops are small enough that they do their own maintenance when they're slow, nothing wrong with that. Hopefully you have fired the guy already and don't ever plan on hiring him back.
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Some of you guys act like you have never changed a set of brake pads or that it requires a special license to do so. Some shops are small enough that they do their own maintenance when they're slow, nothing wrong with that. Hopefully you have fired the guy already and don't ever plan on hiring him back.
I don't think anyone stated they never changed them. Heck I was in the AFLCIO for a year or so in 1975 at a GM dealer, prior to plumbing.

The point is not that they can't or some don't. The legal system has changed in these past 25 years. Heck they send beginning Lawyers to trade classes to be able to understand the building codes now. Someone gets hurt, gets the right lawyer and bang your in a lawsuit, with a higher potential of loosing the case.
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