Brand Recognition with your Customers - Page 3 - Plumbing Zone

TheMaster · 03-17-2010, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DUNBAR PLUMBING

Listen to the video,

You can hear my toyota running through the gears, how fast I went to work tonight.

YouTube- SUMP PUMP REPLACEMENT - NORTH OAK DRIVE VILLA HILLS KENTUCKY - DUNBAR PLUMBING

That shiots funny right there

ChrisConnor · 03-17-2010, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DUNBAR PLUMBING

Listen to the video,

You can hear my toyota running through the gears, how fast I went to work tonight.

Did you drill a hole in the line between the sump and the check valve?

MIbassmaster · 03-17-2010, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisConnor

Did you drill a hole in the line between the sump and the check valve?

Check is below the flood level too

ChrisConnor · 03-17-2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MIbassmaster

Check is below the flood level too

I ashamed to say that I totally missed that.

I was too distracted by the vrooooom oooom noises.

DUNBAR PLUMBING · 03-18-2010, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisConnor

Did you drill a hole in the line between the sump and the check valve?

Just do a search on the subject matter, you'll find me. I've been writing those sea scrolls for years on the internet.

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Originally Posted by MIbassmaster

Check is below the flood level too

Have you ever seen check valves split apart, unbolt, break free from their rubber connectors when the pump is still plugged in moving X amount of gallons a minute?

Have you seen furnaces get water damaged/destroyed in the same fashion?

Have you seen electrical panels be totally replaced as a result of a check valve disconnecting?

I have. With my name on the jobs I whenever possible get those checks under that locking lid, so when it decides to break at no control of my own, I want the issues to go wrong down below, not above.

I upsold a battery backup on that job in the next couple weeks. Check will be under the lid again with wye connection and mission no-hub eliminating a glued connection I don't have 2 hours to wait for to keep water out of the equation.

I'll teach you about toyotas, now sump pumps, and here's a honda for ya I pulled up to on my 1st call today.

new_honda_vehicle.jpg

I wasn't making that up about the customers I have.

Damn thing about that picture; Center joint in that driveway has two uneven slabs and if I didn't have work boots on today....I'd be talking about a broken ankle.

MIbassmaster · 03-18-2010, 02:18 AM

Have you ever seen check valves split apart, unbolt, break free from their rubber connectors when the pump is still plugged in moving X amount of gallons a minute?

Have you seen furnaces get water damaged/destroyed in the same fashion?

Have you seen electrical panels be totally replaced as a result of a check valve disconnecting?

I have. With my name on the jobs I whenever possible get those checks under that locking lid, so when it decides to break at no control of my own, I want the issues to go wrong down below, not above.

I upsold a battery backup on that job in the next couple weeks. Check will be under the lid again with wye connection and mission no-hub eliminating a glued connection I don't have 2 hours to wait for to keep water out of the equation.

I'll teach you about toyotas, now sump pumps, and here's a honda for ya I pulled up to on my 1st call today.

As much as you will admit when you are wrong, you will make someone a wonderful wife someday.

In MI we have codes to protect electrical equiptment from water damage.

Maybe all those checks wouldn't fail if they weren't installed in a humid environment.

Illegal installations, Upselling and suing homeowners is not my idea of good practice, but you seem to be doing okay. I'm new to service so maybe I can learn from you.

DUNBAR PLUMBING · 03-18-2010, 04:13 AM

From, MIbassmaster:

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After being employed as a plumbing inspector for five years the municipality had to downsize. So as I collect Jenifer Granholm's unemployment benifts I have decieded to get my pipe wrenches in a row and start my own gig. With unemployment at 15% and new construction basicaly gone it will be a wonderful charactor builder. This is the reason people in my past said "get your lisence, you can always fall back on it". Well I'm falling back all right, I just wish "they" told me to keep some lube! Insurance, truck, tools, buiseness

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I'm new to service

So...

Unemployed plumbing inspector, how you goin' to fair running service with that buiseness you're gonna run, bein' you R new to service, and you got a lisence that you need to plumb with...

and all these years inspecting other people's work, you don't understand by now what it takes to run a company, after shooting the **** with all these plumbers you've dealt with in all the years you've been around the trade?

Surely a hardship story has come about, kinda like your first post into this site complaining about it...no?

Are you that blind in michigan not to know anything other than what an inspector does, look at pipe and throw the yay or nay?

Prove the statute exists in my state that dewatering pumps must have the checks above the pit.

Then show me the statute that's allowing inspectors in my state to have checks below the lid on sewage ejector pumps. Tell me why I keep finding them this way, a lot of them on the sanitary and groundwater systems. New plumbers are getting them passed all day long, just like what was pictured when I snapped that first pic of the pit.

You think plumbing across the nation is "michigan style" as you're calling it?

You're more fun than I thought. If you're a special needs type of person, it's okay. You'll be dealt with accordingly.

ChrisConnor · 03-18-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DUNBAR PLUMBING

Just do a search on the subject matter, you'll find me. I've been writing those sea scrolls for years on the internet.

I don't need to do a search, but if you do not install the drain hole, then aren't you installing it contrary to manufacturers instructions?

If the pump air locks because of this, the pump is not going to turn on,Then you're gonna open the lid on the pit that is full of water and have to then open the line between the check valve and the pump.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

Also, not putting the drain hole in the pipe between the check and the pump shortens the life of the pump.

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Originally Posted by DUNBAR PLUMBING

Have you ever seen check valves split apart, unbolt, break free from their rubber connectors when the pump is still plugged in moving X amount of gallons a minute?

Have you seen furnaces get water damaged/destroyed in the same fashion?

Have you seen electrical panels be totally replaced as a result of a check valve disconnecting?

I have. With my name on the jobs I whenever possible get those checks under that locking lid, so when it decides to break at no control of my own, I want the issues to go wrong down below, not above.

If the "rubber" connection is such a threat, then hard pipe it. Aren't your customers worth it?

I've never had that much water come out of a line that would take "two hours" to drain. It's not about convenience, it's about doing the job right.

I also don't see the big deal about "what kind of customers you have". Don't you treat all customers the same?

Those sort of catastrophic situations where electric panels and air conditioners have to be replace is a little far stretched.

Hard pipe the check valve above the lid if you are afraid of those flexible pvc connectors being outside the box.

Usually when I see a flexible coupling fail, it usually involves a misaligned pipe and it rips from the torque from the pump engaging, all because the installer did a poor job and let the flexible coupling take up the slack.

TheMaster · 03-18-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisConnor

I also don't see the big deal about "what kind of customers you have". Don't you treat all customers the same?

NO I dont treat everyone the same.....because they are not the same.

I do treat everyone fair,but not the same. Think about that for a minute

Big difference.

njoy plumbing · 03-18-2010, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by service guy

I rock a GMC 3500 for work, and Honda Pilot for pleasure. Sorry detroit, but I love the Honda.

MY 02 INFINITI i35 STILL ROCKS THANK YOU VERY MUCH

03-18-2010, 02:18 AM	#26
MIbassmaster twice the diameter Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Great Lakes State Posts: 34 My Photos	Have you ever seen check valves split apart, unbolt, break free from their rubber connectors when the pump is still plugged in moving X amount of gallons a minute? Have you seen furnaces get water damaged/destroyed in the same fashion? Have you seen electrical panels be totally replaced as a result of a check valve disconnecting? I have. With my name on the jobs I whenever possible get those checks under that locking lid, so when it decides to break at no control of my own, I want the issues to go wrong down below, not above. I upsold a battery backup on that job in the next couple weeks. Check will be under the lid again with wye connection and mission no-hub eliminating a glued connection I don't have 2 hours to wait for to keep water out of the equation. I'll teach you about toyotas, now sump pumps, and here's a honda for ya I pulled up to on my 1st call today. As much as you will admit when you are wrong, you will make someone a wonderful wife someday. In MI we have codes to protect electrical equiptment from water damage. Maybe all those checks wouldn't fail if they weren't installed in a humid environment. Illegal installations, Upselling and suing homeowners is not my idea of good practice, but you seem to be doing okay. I'm new to service so maybe I can learn from you. Last edited by MIbassmaster; 03-18-2010 at 02:20 AM..

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