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Old 07-09-2009, 07:57 PM   #31
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a service guy at our shop had a good idea for deep 2 way c/o's. he said he had a piece of 2" with a 45 glued on the end. He would push the cable through the 2" and put whatever head on when it came out the 45. That way he could control what way he wanted to go on the deep ones.
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a service guy at our shop had a good idea for deep 2 way c/o's. he said he had a piece of 2" with a 45 glued on the end. He would push the cable through the 2" and put whatever head on when it came out the 45. That way he could control what way he wanted to go on the deep ones.
Thats a damn good idea and it works too. I broke my bowl auger one day and used the same set up with 1.5" pvc through a toilet with a small hand machine. On deep cleanouts I've also tied a piece of mason twine to the bit and as it reaches the bottom i pull up on the string to get the cable to bend in the right direction.
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A slight crock on the end, dropping the head to it's depth, pointed it the direction you want it to go, and a good push before you fire up the machine was always how I could get cable to go the way I wanted, also you can pretty much tell which way you are heading by the way the cable pushes against the side of the clean out riser.

One more trick, the use of a v-bar after the plunge can tell you what way your heading, slide v-bar into clean out to determine your dirction of travel.

Most clean outs here bottom out within 2' of grade.
What the hell is a V-bar. Do you have a pic of one. And far the rest of yous, those are great ideas, but, two combos could eliminate all that. thaz alls im sayins.
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What the hell is a V-bar. Do you have a pic of one. And far the rest of yous, those are great ideas, but, two combos could eliminate all that. thaz alls im sayins.
Cleanouts properly spaced from the beginning of the drain to the end drain will also work properly.
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I agree with you RSP. Of course being new construction I think I've only snaked 3 sewers. And that's 3 too many.
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What the hell is a V-bar. Do you have a pic of one. And far the rest of yous, those are great ideas, but, two combos could eliminate all that. thaz alls im sayins.

i do them much like ron mentioned but i have this spoon-like thing that does what his "v-bar" does. it's basically just a long piece of 3/8" round bar with a spoon-ish end on it. you can guide the cutter pretty easily but double cleanouts are sooooo much nicer. the best thing about them is you know what's going on before you even pull the caps.

there's a house in town here that some joker installed a 2-way cleanout on but he put it under a walkway and rolled it at a 45 to get it into the flowerbed. then he put a 45 on it and poked it up vertical. if you didn't know, there's no way you would suspect it was a 2 way and you'd blow up a toilet for sure.







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Speaking of blowing up toilets, we had hot wings and burritos tonight.!!!
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OK well maybe it is not really called that but that is what I call it, it is called a bent edge vertical line post.

Sure back to back combos can work but there not allowed here.
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OK well maybe it is not really called that but that is what I call it, it is called a bent edge vertical line post.

Sure back to back combos can work but there not allowed here.
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Is there some kind of legitimate reason for that Ron? or did someone just think it sounded like a cool rule?

I install a 2 way if it's shallow. If it's deep I install 2 combos aimed at each other so that when jetting, you don't leave any debris in between. If I've got plenty of space and the job is a "good" one then I actually install wyes. Wyes make for some easy drain cabling or jetting. It also makes it pretty idiot proof for the drain cleaner. You never know, it might be my guy that comes back out years later to clean it.

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OK well maybe it is not really called that but that is what I call it, it is called a bent edge vertical line post.

Sure back to back combos can work but there not allowed here.
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