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TheMaster · 08-16-2010, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RW Plumbing

I would charge my going rate. My employee's charge me by the hour for what they do. I don't get "favors" or any special treatment from them come payday, why should I give any? I'm running a business, and as such pay a fair price for a fair days work. I also expect to recieve that in return.

Based on your above statement,let me ask you a question. Would you get upset if you found out one of your guys called another plumbing co to come do work for their landlord or their family?

Phat Cat · 08-16-2010, 08:50 PM

Would you be upset if your employee used a competitor because they were cheaper?

RW Plumbing · 08-16-2010, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMaster

Based on your above statement,let me ask you a question. Would you get upset if you found out one of your guys called another plumbing co to come do work for their landlord or their family?

No, I wouldn't get upset. I would have to wonder why though, as my rates are very reasonable. It may have already happened for all I know. I would like to think everyone I have working for me has a high opinion of my work as they have seen that I am fair and I do quality work. I would wonder why they didn't have me do the work. I wouldn't be upset though.

TheMaster · 08-16-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RW Plumbing

No, I wouldn't get upset. I would have to wonder why though, as my rates are very reasonable. It may have already happened for all I know. I would like to think everyone I have working for me has a high opinion of my work as they have seen that I am fair and I do quality work. I would wonder why they didn't have me do the work. I wouldn't be upset though.

Ok then .....I like you

You sound fair in your thinking at least.

house plumber · 08-16-2010, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMaster

Ok then .....I like you

You sound fair in your thinking at least.

WHOA!!! TM likes you. That is a first let me tell you.

**SlickRick** · 08-16-2010, 09:25 PM

TM found a long lost brother.

This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius.!

plbgbiz · 08-29-2010, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RW Plumbing

When's the last time a secrectary at a doctors office got free surgery? Or a paralegal getting to sue people for free? I resent the implication that I am bad to work for. I treat my employees fairly and compensate them for the work they do.

Last time I checked, my employees don't bust their backs because i'm a good guy. They do it for a paycheck. I bet your employees work for a check, not because your a nice guy also. When I work I am an employee of that customer. As an employee, I expect to be paid for the service I supply.

As business owners, our employees have entrusted their family's financial well being in large part to us. However, studies have proven time after time that money is not the reason most people leave a company. By extension, you could say it is not the only reason they stay. I think it is a bigger issue of common decency rather than did I get my money.

RW Plumbing · 08-30-2010, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by plbgbiz

As business owners, our employees have entrusted their family's financial well being in large part to us. However, studies have proven time after time that money is not the reason most people leave a company. By extension, you could say it is not the only reason they stay. I think it is a bigger issue of common decency rather than did I get my money.

I agree a good atmosphere is very important in retaining employees. Just because I don't do work at their houses for nothing doesn't mean I am not a fair decent boss. I take employees out for lunch, give bonuses and am flexible with time off. Everyone has a line they draw, mine happens to be applying my trade for nothing. It isn't one thing or the other.

It is very possible to alienate employees by doing work for them. Imagine one guy just needs his KS unclogged and it's going to take you a half hour on the way home, you do it no big deal right? Well your other employee calls you up with a main sewer clog on a saturday, they have company over and really need you to bail them out. That particular saturday you happen to be unavailable. Don't you think employee #2 is going to feel less valued than the 1st one?

I just think its easier to keep things equal amongst employees and keep people from being disgruntled, by not doing work for them for free.

Richard Hilliard · 08-30-2010, 09:01 PM

I had my hips replaced in 2004 and while I was out our water closet tank broke. The owner sent the shop guy over and he installed a Caruso ADA water closet for me and gave it to me as a gift. I really liked that water closet and decided to get a second one for the master bathroom. I ordered it through the company and when I went to pay for it the owner said NO. Since 1996 I have missed a total of 1.5 years due to health reasons and this guy has taken care of me and my family.
Plumbcrazy said it well givers gain.

I have a great owner and a huge debt to pay to him and his wife. They are fantastic people and treat their employees as family. Every time I have went down with surgeries he was at my house every week to see if he could buy groceries and to see if we were ok or if there was anything he could do for us. At that time my kids were in grade school and high school. This is not the only time he has shown great care towards my family and me.

What he is receiving from me is a great day’s work, fantastic effort from me, complete loyalty, extra help and me taking on more responsibilities to ease the stress on a small businessman. Money is not the reason I am working for them. I can make more elsewhere however the grass is only greener when it sits on a faulty septic tank. It is due to the treatment and personal touch that they add for each of us when we joined his extended family. In the past he has taken hits in order to keep his work force working and getting paid. Everyone in his company owes him a great debt of gratitude. The only reason I would leave is if he sold his business. I do not work for him I work with him and I do not go to work I come to work.

This is meant to show how one person can affect people and how we think. When a person can look you in the eye and you know it is true.

House plaumber you have a great guy to work with and for.

house plumber · 08-30-2010, 09:19 PM

well said Richard. my boss is the exact same. I've been through 2 divorce's 2 surgerys on my left elbow a car accident and missed 2 months of work and had been sick with the flu for 2 months and didnt work, and he has been there for me in those 18+ years. With my disease i'm not as productive as i had been and he has always told me as long as the doors are open i'll have a job. layoffs came and a couple guys that been there longer than me got hit. really a great guy.

08-16-2010, 08:50 PM	#22
Phat Cat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 5,106 My Photos	Would you be upset if your employee used a competitor because they were cheaper? __________________ All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. – Edmund Burke

08-16-2010, 09:25 PM	#26
SlickRick Moderator Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gilmer, Texas Posts: 5,770 My Photos	TM found a long lost brother. This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius.! __________________ "I believe human-beings and fist can co-exist peacefully....." GW Last edited by SlickRick; 08-16-2010 at 09:47 PM..

08-30-2010, 09:01 PM	#29
Richard Hilliard Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: sarasota,fl Posts: 1,277 My Photos	charging employees I had my hips replaced in 2004 and while I was out our water closet tank broke. The owner sent the shop guy over and he installed a Caruso ADA water closet for me and gave it to me as a gift. I really liked that water closet and decided to get a second one for the master bathroom. I ordered it through the company and when I went to pay for it the owner said NO. Since 1996 I have missed a total of 1.5 years due to health reasons and this guy has taken care of me and my family. Plumbcrazy said it well givers gain. I have a great owner and a huge debt to pay to him and his wife. They are fantastic people and treat their employees as family. Every time I have went down with surgeries he was at my house every week to see if he could buy groceries and to see if we were ok or if there was anything he could do for us. At that time my kids were in grade school and high school. This is not the only time he has shown great care towards my family and me. What he is receiving from me is a great day’s work, fantastic effort from me, complete loyalty, extra help and me taking on more responsibilities to ease the stress on a small businessman. Money is not the reason I am working for them. I can make more elsewhere however the grass is only greener when it sits on a faulty septic tank. It is due to the treatment and personal touch that they add for each of us when we joined his extended family. In the past he has taken hits in order to keep his work force working and getting paid. Everyone in his company owes him a great debt of gratitude. The only reason I would leave is if he sold his business. I do not work for him I work with him and I do not go to work I come to work. This is meant to show how one person can affect people and how we think. When a person can look you in the eye and you know it is true. House plaumber you have a great guy to work with and for.

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08-30-2010, 09:19 PM	#30
house plumber HI Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Port Richey,Fl Posts: 3,084 My Photos	well said Richard. my boss is the exact same. I've been through 2 divorce's 2 surgerys on my left elbow a car accident and missed 2 months of work and had been sick with the flu for 2 months and didnt work, and he has been there for me in those 18+ years. With my disease i'm not as productive as i had been and he has always told me as long as the doors are open i'll have a job. layoffs came and a couple guys that been there longer than me got hit. really a great guy.