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Old 05-12-2010, 10:04 PM   #11
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Old 05-12-2010, 11:43 PM   #12
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Hey, if it does fail, then bring it on. There are more houses in this area plumbed with that chit, then any other material. Service is great. I know that if it is in direct contact with UV rays of any type, it is like Kryptonite to superman.
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I am fixing several CPVC pipe breakages in a condo complex in Florida that was built 11 to 12 years ago. The CPVC is brittle and with the slightess movement it will break. Talked to the manufacture Charlotte Piping and showed them the CPVC. T hey say that there is no problem with the CPVC. I believe we have a major manufacturing defeat. Any help would be appreciated on what the condo association should do next.
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Old 05-13-2010, 01:24 AM   #14
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There is nothing wrong with your CPVC. The manufacturer knows it's crap. All of it

But hey, it's cheap....
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They are already dropping like flies around here. I'm loving it because I seem to be the only guy in town that can locate a cpvc slab leak. It's getting to the point were the competing leak location companies are sending cpvc calls my way because they can't find the leaks.

There are still a hoard of idiots in my area trying to sell cpvc repipes and that's all they know how to do. I've been snapping pictures of all the cpvc failures I've ran across over the last 3 years and put together a nice little sales brochure for repipes with them.

Like shooting fish in a barrel baby.

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Hey, if it does fail, then bring it on. There are more houses in this area plumbed with that chit, then any other material. Service is great. I know that if it is in direct contact with UV rays of any type, it is like Kryptonite to superman.
I know something that is more powerfull than Kryptonite.
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Here is what I am discovering with cpvc in Florida. Some types of armaflex has a powder in it that reacts to the chemicals in cpvc pipe making it brittle.This was discovered ina condo where all of the cpvc piping had to be replaced. The original plumber did not know that some armaflex could not be used with cpvc. The supply house did not know this either.

Do not install cpvc against cinder block. I am not a chemist but I believe the lime in the concrete reacts to the cpvc. I have service a lot of cpvc that is brittle and it is against cinder block. No proof just a theory do to the many repairs that I have made since 1993.

Water smells in a cpvc water piping system due to flowguards chemicals and it may take a long time to have the gases leave the sytem.
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You are incorrect about both. The talcum power inside the armaflex is not reactive with cpvc, nor is concrete/cinderblock/mortar. CPVC is an inherently brittle material. Plasticizers and stabilizers are added to it to make it flexible. Those chemicals breakdown/leach out of the resin over time and it becomes brittle with age. THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO PREVENT THIS. It is the inherent nature of the material and even the guys at Noveon/Flowguard/Lubrizol will tell you this.

There are many hydrocarbons that do cause cpvc to become brittle(faster) or become soft though.


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Here is what I am discovering with cpvc in Florida. Some types of armaflex has a powder in it that reacts to the chemicals in cpvc pipe making it brittle.This was discovered ina condo where all of the cpvc piping had to be replaced. The original plumber did not know that some armaflex could not be used with cpvc. The supply house did not know this either.

Do not install cpvc against cinder block. I am not a chemist but I believe the lime in the concrete reacts to the cpvc. I have service a lot of cpvc that is brittle and it is against cinder block. No proof just a theory do to the many repairs that I have made since 1993.

Water smells in a cpvc water piping system due to flowguards chemicals and it may take a long time to have the gases leave the sytem.
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Around here CPVC is the choice of the Handy Man...

I have only seen a couple of professional installations of CPVC in my entire career here in CT...
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