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Old 11-07-2009, 03:51 PM   #11
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Escuseons are code here. Have to have them. Someting about fire, and critters. I dunno.
I've worked in places where they are required, or were required but then weren't and then were again (stupid inspectors), but they aren't required here. I'm certainly not shy about using them though - if it needs an escutcheon to look nice it always gets one. Escutcheons are cheap.
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Old 11-07-2009, 04:21 PM   #12
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You definitely left this place in better shape than when you found it to be sure. Do you know the age of the house?
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I've worked in places where they are required, or were required but then weren't and then were again (stupid inspectors), but they aren't required here. I'm certainly not shy about using them though - if it needs an escutcheon to look nice it always gets one. Escutcheons are cheap.
Why is it that when regulations change, or a jurisdiction changes it policy, it always the inspectors' fault?
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Old 11-07-2009, 04:27 PM   #14
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You definitely left this place in better shape than when you found it to be sure.
For sure. The old plumbing was pretty horrible. Some of it is staying put though, as it's outside the scope of our renovation. But I'm taking any excuse there is to upgrade/replace what I can.

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Do you know the age of the house?
No. The plumbing was put in during the era of poly-b pipe and Qest fittings, tho... Probably in the 80's sometime. It's out in the sticks a bit (184 St. and 32 Ave. area) and there were probably no inspections out there at the time.

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No. The plumbing was put in during the era of poly-b pipe and Qest fittings, tho... Probably in the 80's sometime. It's out in the sticks a bit (184 St. and 32 Ave. area) and there were probably no inspections out there at the time.
My guess would be that no permit was pulled at the time.

But that's just me.
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Old 11-07-2009, 04:42 PM   #16
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Why is it that when regulations change, or a jurisdiction changes it policy, it always the inspectors' fault?
Hehehe. Not all inspectors are as smart and sensible as you. LOL

They're just people, and some of them are pretty bad at what they do. I've worked in SO many different places and dealt with TONS of different municipalities and inspectors over the years. There's a huge amount of variation in how they interpret code and how they do their job. Most are pretty good, but...

There was an inspector in one town who was called "drive-by Ron". He was too fat and lazy to get out of his car. He'd often give you your inspection card at his car. Never looked at anything.

There's an inspector in a town I used to live in who I used to work with. I wouldn't trust this nitwit to plumb an outhouse. But he's an inspector now!

I've had a couple inspectors on the payroll (weekend work) who I couldn't get rid of fast enough. Sloppy, bad workmanship. They were decent inspectors though.

Had a few who rejected on ridiculous, made-up things. Had to make em show me in the codebook. They couldn't find the rule of course and had to back down. Other places won't back down (the Kingdom of West Van, for instance).

Back when we used to travel all over the country we finally started compiling our own company codebook. It listed all the wacky crazy local rules that each area and the different inspectors in some of these areas enforced. They don't publish them, and they have nothing whatsoever to do with code. Saved us having to get rejected and change things every time we went back there.

Oh ya, another funny one: In Richmond, during the boom, the inspectors were insane in the brain. They WOULD NOT leave a job without rejecting something, even if they had to make up a new rule on the spot. It was craziness! We finally learned to plan for the extra day and leave something obvious and easy to fix for the inspector to reject. Then we'd recall and fix that and all was good. If we didn't do that he'd cook up something ridiculous that might require taking huge amounts of work apart and redoing things to suit him.

A friendly Toronto inspector once explained to me that if you were having constant trouble getting good work passed in that town (I had a master plumber license there at one time), the inspector was very likely looking for his "case of whiskey". Once that bit of business was taken care of you'd get your jobs passed.

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Escuseons are code here. Have to have them. Someting about fire, and critters. I dunno.

I just think they give a more "finished" look to a finish... if you catch my drift... The quality of escution is determined by the price eg. cheap plastic for the people that paid for the cheap plastic, and nice brushed nickel for those that paid for nice brushed nickel. Jobs without just seem unfinished to me. just an opinion.
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All looks nice to me but was wondering one thing besides what RSP mentioned and that is why did you not put the 3" stack between the laundry sink and washer riser and use 2 stacked tees instead of running a seperate 2" line up? The wall obviously has to be furred out for the 3" stack so you could have gotton the water piping for the laundry sink to fit.
I'm just saying.
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Escutcheons

Just for info sake. IPC 304.4 Rodent proofing. In or on structures where openings have been made in walls,floors or ceilings for the passage of pipes, such openings shall be closed and protected by the installation of approved metal collars that are securely fastened to the adjoining structure. Anyway thats where it comes from...
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All looks nice to me but was wondering one thing besides what RSP mentioned and that is why did you not put the 3" stack between the laundry sink and washer riser and use 2 stacked tees instead of running a seperate 2" line up? The wall obviously has to be furred out for the 3" stack so you could have gotton the water piping for the laundry sink to fit.
I'm just saying.
There's a very good reason for that, but you can't see it in the pics. The roof is oddball lean-to 2x6 stick framing (to match the old roof height), and there was no room in a 2x6 rafter with a drywall backing block to get a couple 3" elbows rolled to the roof angle. Couldn't terminate lower down the roof because of a dormer window right above it (B.C. code requires vent terminations to be minimum 10' from openings).

Here's a pic of the top of that wall. Where my vent comes through there's room where the lean-to meets the steeper upper roof, so I was able to use a single 45 there, tie in two other vents and then roll to the upper roof angle with another pair of 45s.
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