futz

I started a renovation at this job today. The old house looks like the DIY owner did all his own plumbing (and carpentry). Maybe he converted an old shed into a house.

This is the main attraction. This guy had no clue whatsoever. That 2" vent out the back wall is pretty funny.
That's a brand new skim coat. When I first looked in there it was mud. I was not looking forward to this job. The skim coat makes things MUCH nicer.
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Note the 2x6 joists, 2' on center, with hardwood laid on them directly. No subfloor. No joist blocking. Must be springy as hell.
No vents at all except that one 2" going outside and up the back wall in eavestrough downspout pipe. The lav has one trap in the crawl and another in the vanity. Hilarious!
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The line heading to the right goes to the kitchen, about 20' away. No vent, almost no slope, sags, too many 90s, S-trapped. Almost everything piped with Qest fittings or whatever else he got from the hardware store.
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This was outside the house. Note the nice wrong-way slope. It was stuffed into a piece of downspout that terminated with a couple elbows under the eaves to serve as a "vent".
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Redwood

Ahhh another one of my book customers...
I'd recognize that style anywhere...

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WestCoastPlumber

you know whats sad though, that crap "worked" thats why everyone can do plumbing, because it "works" as is for awhile....

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Till someone dies from sewer gas exposure that is

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futz

Yup. It's worked that way for years. I doubt if it worked well, but it worked.

When they put on the addition, the guys took the old 4" sani outlet off the old junk septic and strung 30' or so of Big-O over to the new septic line. It's run over humps and bumps and then the new crawl was backfilled over it. Then the job sat for a couple weeks waiting for framing and me. They say it's starting to back up now. So now I have to race to get the DWV piped and connected properly to the septic. I hate being pushed. Got most new crawl DWV run Friday and stubbed to the old pipe. So Monday I guess I do a tough, ugly day and hack off the old, connect to the new and connect up the sewer. Has to be all done that day or else I'll be swimming in it.

futz

Since that one house burned, I'm a bit more caught up and I have a Saturday off! Nice relaxation (I need it). So here's some pics of the new plumbing:

Replacement piping for the mess in the original post. Guess I should plug that old drain off with concrete. Also have to fix up the sloppy waterpipes the previous "plumber" left dangling and touching the heating pipe.
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The other side of the wall, in the new addition. Pipe going to the left is for the kitchen.
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New plumbing in addition under test, waiting for inspector.
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Another shot of new piping.
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Pic of new laundry and bathroom
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slickrick

Nice looking job.

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The last picture on there, the one of the laundry room, whats with the 4 stub outs on your water at the laundry sink. And why are 2 pex, and 2 copper? Also noticed there is no washer box, and that the drain is rolled out of the wall on a 45, and that it is a bit high, must be a stackable unit? Then the drain coming out of the wall for the laundy sink, is stubbed out at an angle, is it a free standing unit, or a drop in with cabinet? only reason i ask is that I hate that, hard to get your escuseon on properly with out bending the hell out of it.

Very clean work though. I roll my strap iron around the pipe once before i secure to joist. That is if im not using stove bolts.

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futz

Because my 3" vent and the tub valve ate up too much wall, I couldn't fit a laundry box. Had it all assembled and ready, but after mounting the tub valve I realized it wouldn't work. So the pex stubs are for the AW valves and shock arresters, which I'll mount to the wall behind the washer on finish. The copper stubs are for the laundry tub (cheap poly tub). The washer/dryer is a stacker, so I can have a nice extra tall drain.

No escutcheon needed if the drywallers do a decent job (some even do!). Anyway, this house isn't terribly high-falutin. If the drywall hole isn't nice... well, it's under the laundry tub and nobody is going to look under there much.

ROCKSTARPLUMBER

Escuseons are code here. Have to have them. Someting about fire, and critters. I dunno.

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