DIY craziness found in renovation - Page 3 - Plumbing Zone

futz · 08-25-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Plumb

OOHhhhh, stay away from that quest unless you are gonna replace it.

What is "quest"? Are you referring to poly-b?

All the poly-b was ripped out or abandoned, except some in the crawl feeding a hose bibb.

Anyway I have absolutely no problem with poly-b. To this day I still don't understand what all the fuss was about. It was always absolutely reliable.

The only problems we ever had with it was the first year we used it when we were still using those crappy grey acetal plastic crimp fittings (also they briefly experimented with aluminum crimp rings - many failures on those too). Total junk. Switched to copper and brass fittings and all problems went away.

Lots of companies (us too back then) also used it for radiant heating. We didn't know any better. That was a massive mistake. With no oxygen barrier it rots out boilers and heating systems badly. But the pipe never fails - just fills up with oxidized boiler "dust".

futz · 08-25-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMaster

You might should consult the "shorty" of the house AND the man of the house. I usually have the owner come in and stand on somthing that will be the same height of the finished floor of the shower and tell me where they want everything to be.

They had been worrying about it and we did exactly that. The sprays are level with her collarbone area or slightly below. We decided to leave it at that. Those sprays have some angle adjustment, don't they? Like 10 or 15 degrees?

TheMaster · 08-25-2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by futz

They had been worrying about it and we did exactly that. The sprays are level with her collarbone area or slightly below. We decided to leave it at that. Those sprays have some angle adjustment, don't they? Like 10 or 15 degrees?

Yes they have some adjustment......sounds like you have it covered.

bartnc37 · 08-25-2010, 07:07 PM

Even w/o the stops those deltas come with a plug for the hot port so the water doesn't circ if you don't have the trim yet.
The piping looks good but I try to use bend supports for my pex 90 degree turns, just eliminates some joints in the wall/floor.

futz · 08-25-2010, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bartnc37

Even w/o the stops those deltas come with a plug for the hot port so the water doesn't circ if you don't have the trim yet.

I've never seen one. No Delta RI I've ever installed has come with such a thing.

Titan Plumbing · 08-25-2010, 08:45 PM

I've had some valve bodies that came with the plugs and some without, I save them....just in case.

Ron · 08-26-2010, 11:51 AM

ABS looks good futz.

TheMaster · 08-26-2010, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bartnc37

Even w/o the stops those deltas come with a plug for the hot port so the water doesn't circ if you don't have the trim yet.
The piping looks good but I try to use bend supports for my pex 90 degree turns, just eliminates some joints in the wall/floor.

Delta rough valve comes with a plug installed instead of the cartridge now.....it does not have a plug in the hot side of the valve. They install plastic filter internally in the outlet of the valve....it is to be removed before the cartridge is installed........it doesn't plug anything off.

futz · 08-26-2010, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMaster

Delta rough valve comes with a plug installed instead of the cartridge now.....it does not have a plug in the hot side of the valve. They install plastic filter internally in the outlet of the valve....it is to be removed before the cartridge is installed........it doesn't plug anything off.

Yes. That has been my experience. Never seen any kind of plug to stop crossflow in an empty valve body. Maybe I'll see one someday, but not so far.

Shower sub-base and tub went in today. Pan liner and inspection tomorrow. I didn't take any pics.

Titan Plumbing · 08-26-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMaster

Delta rough valve comes with a plug installed instead of the cartridge now.....it does not have a plug in the hot side of the valve. They install plastic filter internally in the outlet of the valve....it is to be removed before the cartridge is installed........it doesn't plug anything off.

TM, here is what I'm talking about. It's a plug. Yeah I know...crappy cell phone pics.

Here it is installed...........

And here it is laying on my gun cleaning mat............

08-25-2010, 08:45 PM	#26
Titan Plumbing Hecho In America Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 1,890 My Photos	I've had some valve bodies that came with the plugs and some without, I save them....just in case. __________________ Halito...Sa hohchifo ut Mike Titan Plumbing Service Plumber, Plumbers, Fort Worth, Texas "Fast Service Guaranteed...No Matter How Long It Takes"

08-26-2010, 11:51 AM	#27
Ron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,635 My Photos	ABS looks good futz. __________________ Stephen Hawking: If the government is covering up knowledge of Aliens, they are doing a better job of it then they do at anything else. Last edited by Ron; 08-26-2010 at 05:06 PM..

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08-25-2010, 07:07 PM	#24
bartnc37 brown is down Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: WI Posts: 279 My Photos	Even w/o the stops those deltas come with a plug for the hot port so the water doesn't circ if you don't have the trim yet. The piping looks good but I try to use bend supports for my pex 90 degree turns, just eliminates some joints in the wall/floor.