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Old 02-03-2010, 07:23 AM   #1
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Default What is the best PEX out there???

I have always used the WIRSBO brand of pex pipe
and found it to be very good.. You can freeze the stuff solild and it wont break...

The only drawback is the expence of the tools....

From my supply house about 4 years ago I got an
electric battery operated expander... they were on sale at the time and got it for about
$400. with 3 heads..... list was 1200

Also have the neumatic air perssure one too....
That was another $800 bucks....and this tool has broken down on me

Tuesday morning the helper opens the side door to the van and the the Electric battery expander had shifted in the truck and falls out to the ground. right as he opens the door.........

yes.... it landed perfectly on the edje of the handle and broke the
handle and battery carrage right off the g..damn thing...
It was basically my fault for not secureing the thing better the night before.......


Now I got to decide wether to shell out 700 bucks
for another stupid electric expander or experiment with some other brands .....

anyone out there willing to give me an education
on what other brands are better than Wirsbo?


I would rather carry a crimper any day if I could find
something I can trust to work for 35 years...






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Old 02-03-2010, 10:11 AM   #2
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I'm a big fan of the Sioux Chief system (used to be Rehau). Been using it for a few years now and have never had any of it fail. But it has the same problem as the Wirsbo the tools are a little pricey.
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Don't change a thing man, I think wirsbo has it going on. I researched several of them before we got in the PEX game. I will not use anything with a crimp ring(to much like polybutylene). Call me crazy but that junk scares me.
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Don't change a thing man, I think wirsbo has it going on. I researched several of them before we got in the PEX game. I will not use anything with a crimp ring(to much like polybutylene). Call me crazy but that junk scares me.
The crimp rings work very well so dont be afraid of them. I speaking to what I know and thats the copper crimp ring system. We started using poly after the copper fittings and copper rings first came out in the 80's. We waited because we didn't like those plastic fittings they used at first. Some of the poly we installed back then is still in service and hasn't had any problems but some has like most people has experienced. I still have the same crimp tools back from the 80's and they work fine are still are in spec.....I think i adjusted them twice. Crimps work good if you pay attention to what your doing and each crimp does not need to be checked with the go/no go gauge. Its proved itself to me as being a good alternative to copper and way better than cpvc.
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Most of you most likely know this but the Wirsbo and Rehau pipe are the same thing you can use whichever fitting system you want to on the pex.

Shuanvon I'm with you on the crimp, that stuff is going to give pex a bad name overtime.
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Most of you most likely know this but the Wirsbo and Rehau pipe are the same thing you can use whichever fitting system you want to on the pex.

Shuanvon I'm with you on the crimp, that stuff is going to give pex a bad name overtime.
Well i'm waiting...its almost been 20 years now
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You might have a long wait sense your doing it right

You know as well as I do there are people out there NOT doing it right.
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You might have a long wait sense your doing it right

You know as well as I do there are people out there NOT doing it right.
If it makes you feel betta I do use rehau But I hear they are gone now.....I had about 1,000' of each size 1/2"-1" but the 1/2 and 3/4 are beginnning to run low,so I will be using somthing different soon enough.
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Just buy the Uponor pipe and keep going. I have seen the new Sioux Chief fittings been using them for the last few months now.
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I think Wirsbo ProPEX is a really good system. I will use that when I plumb a new house. It is awkward for service work however, so I use the Viega crimp ring system. Just make sure the tool is calibrated correctly, and you won't have any problems.
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