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Old 04-07-2009, 10:44 PM   #21
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That's when I used one, under a trailer but you can add a 3 in front of that 5 and then say below zero.

Hey Ron, I was actually thinking about buying the new Ridgid propress kit with jaws also for the Pureflow pex, they just came out with a new one, lot's of improvements, lighter, better batteries etc. It's the RP 210-B, guess what that baby costs? OUCH!!!!
Sweet, if you do, give us a review, so tell us what it will cost.
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:54 PM   #22
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Water powered sump pumps are legal as long as they have an RPZ.

I would use a shark bite on a potable water line before I would use a compression fitting (except on high heat application like solar). I have yet to run into a leaking shark bite fitting though I have seen some propress leaks. Sharbites are excellent for doing repairs on old failing copper systems because they don't deform the copper like an propress or compression fitting would which would expose fresh metal on the inside and accelerate erosion corrosion at that point. If the copper is in good enough condition I always sweat vs. a SB but I leave enough room so that if the copper pinholes from sanding, fluxing and heating I have enough left to SB onto. They have their place and applications. I understand that many plumbers hate them because they have enabled so many handyman/DIY hacks to reek havoc on plumbing systems but I'm not going to let that dictate what I choose to use. That's being a conformist in my view.

As far as comparing the quality of the connection between SB and PP, I think PP is better but not by much. The pull out strength is pretty similar and so is the temperature rating. Does anyone actually have the dimensions that the o-rings are compressed to once both fittings are installed?
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:17 PM   #23
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Everything these days is

push fit

crimp on

glue


so that's why joe billybob is doin' our job yeeeehaaaaaawww!!!!
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I'll be hunting down Elkay water cooler parts in the morning for a leaking water fountain I looked at today. Cooler is about 5 years old I think and was leaking like CRAZY from push fittings on the push button. I have also repaired leaking shark bites inside walls installed by handymen. I have also installed many sharkbites on pb (which it is not even rated for) underneath mobile homes and on pb water services (thin wall). Do I hold my nose every time I do it? Yes I do. Do I bad mouth them to customers who ask about them? Yes I do. Does this make me a total hypocrite? Yes it does. Am I going to stop using them in specific situations where it seems to be the best solution? No I am not.
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i guess maybe on a grey poly repipe, but only if its under a trailor hahaha
Thats exactly where I use them....
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I'll be hunting down Elkay water cooler parts in the morning for a leaking water fountain I looked at today. Cooler is about 5 years old I think and was leaking like CRAZY from push fittings on the push button. I have also repaired leaking shark bites inside walls installed by handymen. I have also installed many sharkbites on pb (which it is not even rated for) underneath mobile homes and on pb water services (thin wall). Do I hold my nose every time I do it? Yes I do. Do I bad mouth them to customers who ask about them? Yes I do. Does this make me a total hypocrite? Yes it does. Am I going to stop using them in specific situations where it seems to be the best solution? No I am not.
You probably already know , but you can replace the o-rings in the water

cooler push fittings really easy. They want to get indented on one side

and cause leaks. I've replaced alot of them on coolers that were not very old at all.
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I use sharkbites for temp/in progress jobs only. Great for quickly testing as you go and gets water on for the customer. Sharkbites are like John Guest fittings which I HATE! Its not IF they leak it's WHEN they leak! The orings dry out and if there's movement of the line it leaks ( talking about water filtration systems ) I use Jaco fitting on my drinking water systems instead.

So given my experience with the technology I won't use Sharkbites for permanet work.

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You have no problem installing a pump system that has the potential of poisoning a municipal water supply, yet you balk at using a sharkbite fitting?

I fail to see the logic involved in this thought process.

it has a vacuum breaker built in, and it passed inspection.
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it has a vacuum breaker built in, and it passed inspection.
Sounds like your code is pretty lax on cross contamination...
Most places I know of require a RPZ for protection...

That said...
In times of high water I see little value in using a sump pump that adds an additional gallon to the waste stream for every 2 gallons pumped out of the sump...
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I have to keep a supply on the truck because VA Beach is full of quest pipe. I don't trust the quest to pex connection at all and feel a sharkbite is a better alternative. Since I bought a jet swet, I will only solder copper.
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