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Old 04-03-2010, 12:40 PM   #21
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You should have fixed it. I will vacuum them from the bottom and suck the lint out that way. You should get one of the wrap around filters from A.0 Smith and install it around the bottom before it clogs the flame arrestor again. the thermocouple comes as a complete kit with the pilot assembly.
Is the flame arrestor you refer to, the round part, with holes in it, that lets air into burner? Good idea about filter for bottom too. My problem is, no one I deal with handles A.O. Smith. I wonder if the wrap around filter for American, would fit. Thanks for all the advice.

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Is the flame arrestor you refer to, the round part, with holes in it, that lets air into burner? Good idea about filter for bottom too. My problem is, no one I deal with handles A.O. Smith. I wonder if the filter for American, would fit. Thanks for all the advice.
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i Don't Do To Many Gas Heaters But When I Do I Have Been Installing The American Heaters With That Filter That Goes Around The Base Air Intake. I Haven't Had Any Failures Yet. I Did Have One Call Out Where The Ladies Dog Slept Right Next To The Heater And I Had To Clean The Filter But I Don't Consider That A Failure.....just Maintanence.

Most Of The Heaters I've Put In Where For Property Management Companies And They Have A Crew That Comes In Monthly To Clean Filters And Do Other Cleaning So Maybe That's Why I've Seen So Few Problems.

Maybe We Will Have To Start Building Boxes Around These New Flame Arrestor Style Heaters With A Standard Air Handler Filter On The Intake
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I had this same problem today.

40 gallon GE water heater that was only four years old. There was a lot of dust around the water heater, and when I took out the burner, the screen was clogged and the fuse piece was blown.

Having to replace a water heater after only four years because of dust is really stupid if you ask me.
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I had this same problem today.

40 gallon GE water heater that was only four years old. There was a lot of dust around the water heater, and when I took out the burner, the screen was clogged and the fuse piece was blown.

Having to replace a water heater after only four years because of dust is really stupid if you ask me.
I already stated that this problem will only get worse....
We will all probably see more and more Rheems going bad due to lint...

my guess is the 2003 units will start burning out anytime now....

8 to 10 years out max. on the Rheems....
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I already stated that this problem will only get worse....
We will all probably see more and more Rheems going bad due to lint...

my guess is the 2003 units will start burning out anytime now....

8 to 10 years out max. on the Rheems....
So if the fuse burns out, you have to replace heater? Is this fuse located on the thermocouple, or where? Rheem is the only one like that?
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So if the fuse burns out, you have to replace heater? Is this fuse located on the thermocouple, or where? Rheem is the only one like that?
It's called the "TRD" aka "thermal release device". Its an oil filled glass vile. When the temp goes up the oil expands to break the glass vile. This glass vile holds a spring loaded door open to give the unit combustion air.
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It's called the "TRD" aka "thermal release device". Its an oil filled glass vile. When the temp goes up the oil expands to break the glass vile. This glass vile holds a spring loaded door open to give the unit combustion air.
Non- repairable right?
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Non- repairable right?
I sold that very heater in the picture to a hardware store in town for $17 bucks..

they clean out all the lime, test the t-stat and remove the t+p valve...

my best guess is they turned it back into a pre--2003 non FVIR heater by simply removeing that bottom screen and now its on their showroom floor for sale at $170.00.
(yes their are idiots that will buy a used heater with a 30 day warranty for $170)

I will work perfectly fine, except is is not FVIR anymore....

Its Probably already ininstalled in a rental --hell hole somewhere in town.

I think they make the idiot sign a legal waiver to install the
heater with a t+p valve and up to code when they buy it...

he has been doing this since 1960....I really should take a picture of
the row of used heaters he has for sale and post it here some day..

it really makes you gawk at just how cheap and tight assed
some people really are....

I dropped a 40 gallon electric heater
full of water out the door and on its head a while back,
crushing in the front of the unit and they still took it and
eventually sold it to someone!!!!

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I sold that very heater in the picture to a hardware store in town for $17 bucks..

they clean out all the lime, test the t-stat and remove the t+p valve...

my best guess is they turned it back into a pre--2003 non FVIR heater by simply removeing that bottom screen and now its on their showroom floor for sale at $170.00.
(yes their are idiots that will buy a used heater with a 30 day warranty for $170)

I will work perfectly fine, except is is not FVIR anymore....

Its Probably already ininstalled in a rental --hell hole somewhere in town.

I think they make the idiot sign a legal waiver to install the
heater with a t+p valve and up to code when they buy it...

he has been doing this since 1960
If your heaters build up alot of lime in the bottom of the tank it would cause the burner to run longer and cause the combustion chamber to heat up more. No wonder you seem to have problems up there. The screens clog combined with a limed up heater would be double trouble. Last I heard the trd was not replaceable. Those people are gonna get sued waiver is not gonna help them but just prove they knew about the danger....making the damages that much worse when the lawyers get it.
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