Red Seal - Plumbing Zone

schultzie · 11-11-2008, 07:36 PM

Just wondering if anyone knew anything about the red seal exam in canada???? I'm going to write tomorrow just wondering what should brush up on.....thanks

brain freeze · 11-11-2008, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by schultzie

Just wondering if anyone knew anything about the red seal exam in canada???? I'm going to write tomorrow just wondering what should brush up on.....thanks

i wrote my interprovincial in '89.

i found the exam easier than N.A.I.T.'s exam.

hint; do the questions you know first, then go back to the ones that you don't.

Vince

richfield · 11-11-2008, 07:52 PM

it's too late now! everything you need to know tomorrow is the same stuff as you wrote today. I can't remember exactly but study materials, safety, rural septic. red seal is easier than the alberta provincial one by far.

schultzie · 11-11-2008, 07:56 PM

thanks
what kind of saftey??? shoring ladders etc etc
septics i got
venting, drains all that stuff i know
just curious on the hydronic heating and specialty piping systems
thanks again!!!

richfield · 11-11-2008, 08:32 PM

There will only be 1 or 2 questions on safety in the red seal so not a huge deal. read about compressors and air lines. If you have any questions on hydronic just ask. know how to size waterlines and know water treatment. know pumps, I think there is 6-7 questions on pumps

schultzie · 11-11-2008, 09:29 PM

I have a printout on whats Supposed to be on the Red Seal
My question is a quick run down on hydronic transfer units???? what are they>>>> also system controls....how the work etc etc
thanks

richfield · 11-11-2008, 10:12 PM

transfer units is the part of the system that actually transfers the heat to the room.
ex. radiators, baseboards, fan coil, the floor(in-floor heating), and even towel warmers.

richfield · 11-11-2008, 10:33 PM

what do you specifically need to know about controls. I'll give a basic review
Operating controls are like thermostats. The thermostat calls for heat when room temp. falls.
Actuators:these react to the operating controls commands and activate devices such as valvesand are broken down into primary controls and final control elements. Primary controls would be the gas valve or a relay and are directly controlled by the operating control. The final control element is usually controlled by the primary control, like a motor.

Limit and safety controls: these are important for your test. high/low limits, relief valves, flow switches, low water cut offs. They detect dangerous conditions and prevents operation of equipment until addressed.

does this help? i'll put a couple study tips up as well

schultzie · 11-11-2008, 10:46 PM

That makes sense
thanks a lot
it does help i just have a prinout on whats supposed to be on the exam from my apprenticeship person...
We got screwed over in ontario because we are being taught ONTARIO building code and the exam is on national
so i'm a 90% student freaked out of my mind because i wasn't taught what i'm being tested on.....i appreciate all your help thanks alot
Our program is a mess
someone needs to do something i was in school for 8 weeks and my teacher just shrugs his shoulders at us

richfield · 11-11-2008, 10:57 PM

indoor/outdoor controls modulates boiler water temp
modulating gas valves reduces short cycling of the boiler
boiler must have safety limit and operating control
low water cut off is required if low mass boiler is above 400 000 BTU or there is no auto make up. also there might be a clause that states you need one if all system piping is below boiler
flow switch needs 5 pipe diameters on each side

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richfield Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 71 My Photos	There will only be 1 or 2 questions on safety in the red seal so not a huge deal. read about compressors and air lines. If you have any questions on hydronic just ask. know how to size waterlines and know water treatment. know pumps, I think there is 6-7 questions on pumps Last edited by richfield; 11-11-2008 at 08:35 PM..

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11-11-2008, 07:52 PM	#3
richfield Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 71 My Photos	it's too late now! everything you need to know tomorrow is the same stuff as you wrote today. I can't remember exactly but study materials, safety, rural septic. red seal is easier than the alberta provincial one by far.

11-11-2008, 07:56 PM	#4
schultzie Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 7 My Photos	thanks what kind of saftey??? shoring ladders etc etc septics i got venting, drains all that stuff i know just curious on the hydronic heating and specialty piping systems thanks again!!!

11-11-2008, 09:29 PM	#6
schultzie Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 7 My Photos	I have a printout on whats Supposed to be on the Red Seal My question is a quick run down on hydronic transfer units???? what are they>>>> also system controls....how the work etc etc thanks

11-11-2008, 10:12 PM	#7
richfield Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 71 My Photos	transfer units is the part of the system that actually transfers the heat to the room. ex. radiators, baseboards, fan coil, the floor(in-floor heating), and even towel warmers.

11-11-2008, 10:33 PM	#8
richfield Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 71 My Photos	what do you specifically need to know about controls. I'll give a basic review Operating controls are like thermostats. The thermostat calls for heat when room temp. falls. Actuators:these react to the operating controls commands and activate devices such as valvesand are broken down into primary controls and final control elements. Primary controls would be the gas valve or a relay and are directly controlled by the operating control. The final control element is usually controlled by the primary control, like a motor. Limit and safety controls: these are important for your test. high/low limits, relief valves, flow switches, low water cut offs. They detect dangerous conditions and prevents operation of equipment until addressed. does this help? i'll put a couple study tips up as well

11-11-2008, 10:46 PM	#9
schultzie Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 7 My Photos	That makes sense thanks a lot it does help i just have a prinout on whats supposed to be on the exam from my apprenticeship person... We got screwed over in ontario because we are being taught ONTARIO building code and the exam is on national so i'm a 90% student freaked out of my mind because i wasn't taught what i'm being tested on.....i appreciate all your help thanks alot Our program is a mess someone needs to do something i was in school for 8 weeks and my teacher just shrugs his shoulders at us

11-11-2008, 10:57 PM	#10
richfield Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 71 My Photos	indoor/outdoor controls modulates boiler water temp modulating gas valves reduces short cycling of the boiler boiler must have safety limit and operating control low water cut off is required if low mass boiler is above 400 000 BTU or there is no auto make up. also there might be a clause that states you need one if all system piping is below boiler flow switch needs 5 pipe diameters on each side