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Old 02-01-2012, 08:10 AM   #21
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Putty on Basket strainers, lav drains, tub drains. Use silicone between shower drain and pan, and faucets that bolt to marble, granite ect.

There is nothing wrong about this way and I'd never change, never had a problem so I stick to it. I'm sure other people here who do it different then me would make the same statement. Their way may be different and work too, just stick to what you do if it works!
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Old 02-01-2012, 07:28 PM   #22
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Putty. Nuf said.
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PL100 construction adhesive.

I would be inclined to fire anyone that put silicone under a drain. Especially if I was the next guy to work on it.
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PL100 construction adhesive.

I would be inclined to fire anyone that put silicone under a drain. Especially if I was the next guy to work on it.
I've never had a problem removing a drain that's been installed with silicone. Get yourself a good sharp utility knife, never a problem.
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I used to use only putty, but lately on calls where a drain is leaking has been attributed to the putty drying and cracking.

So, no more putty for me. I use white plumbers caulk, or tub and tile caulk. Its silicon based.
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I used to swear that if you needed silicon to stop your strainers from leaking you are not a good plumber. but after years of thought and trial and error. I have throught experince discovered that silicon leaks less and last longer. but with that being said, If i new that the strainer was about to be put together would not leak then i wold use putty. n

however since materials suck nowadays you need to rely on alternative means such as silicon.

What i say about materials spans all objects made over the last 75 years, such as a basket strainer. witch originally had certain dimensions and specifications that over the years have been widdled down to the pos we now hold in our hands. this happens over time through new owners and engineers trying to save money. see originally the fitting was hypothetically size "A" with a nut made from material"B" and threads cut from a quality die. nowadays they attempt make size "a" through back door means, this has happen with ply wood first it was 1/2" 4ply , then 11/32" 4py, now it is 11/32" 3ply abasloute crap. and this dwindling of the materials specs has caused it as a whole to suck and leak because you cant tighten it enough because it will strip from crappy materials, bad threads and bad quality control, and now the silicone even sucks because it doesnt even dry, the government removed all the good stuff and now you need to buy the 8 dollar tub that dries fast, witch is the same stuff as the original but with taxes applied to it to pay for the pollution it produces.

so if it were the same putty and strainer as back in the day i wouold use putty, but now adays we need silicone.

I do not condone the use of silicone and many areas as I feel this is a very diy of plumbing and not how a master plumber stops a leak. Also when I rip a bathroom that is old and in good shape for its age, it most certianly does not have silicone in it,

Almost every 80s and early 90s bathroom i rip. is abasloute crap compared to some of the 50,60, 70 baths i rip that are installed with all cement products and last for a long time. that is what i am trying to reproduce, longevity and I just feel that rotting silicone is not a generally good way to permote longevity.

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I used to use only putty, but lately on calls where a drain is leaking has been attributed to the putty drying and cracking.

So, no more putty for me. I use white plumbers caulk, or tub and tile caulk. Its silicon based.
thats because the putty nowadays even sucks, it cracks and leaks easyer because some ceo decided to use B-triameaethaline instead of C-triameaethaline
because it was a little cheaper while giving a similar result... keyword is similar and also this pertains to the unit u are installing it to since the sink are now crap also... they are thinner and rust from impurities all factors in which cause these current items to suck today......

there are a lot of movies about htis phenomena where the premise is that the current generation is stupid and can not fix things anymore because the "ancients" who built were far smarted and built to complex a machenery.this is something i think about a lot as a result of dealing with shoity materials.

ever wonder why copper pipe from 50 years ago feels heavie and thick then todays. itr because it is.

i re did my oil tank a few years ago. i took the old 2" plugs and put them in the new tank. i went and bought 1 more. it has been about 2 years now and the new 2" plug is rusted bright orange and the other 50year old plugs dont have a drop of rust in them, that then shoity materials and impurities and all sorts of other factors that are making modern materials work against us when compare to a similar fitting from the past.
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PL100 construction adhesive.

I would be inclined to fire anyone that put silicone under a drain. Especially if I was the next guy to work on it.
that is one resone i dont like silicone. no respect for the next guy. Some people forget that building systems are designed with demo in mind, thats why normally you do not screw down a floor, because when it come time to rip it you must do major damage just to get to square one.

i likr to think the next guy will be me so i try to install with that in mind. but i need this part to not leak now!!! and silicon e in that situation seems to be the best answer.
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