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Old 10-31-2011, 10:19 PM   #1
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I was just wondering, how many people here received their license by way of the Grandfather Clause. If you did, has anyone ever said you weren't as qualified as the people that took and passed an exam to get their license.
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I worked for a guy who had grandfathered into a license. One time during a conversation with my wife she said "Well, he has been doing it for 30 years." My response was "That doesn't mean he was doing it right."

He is a good guy and could fix anything and knew many codes, but would often do things directly against code.

We always joked with his isms.

You guys and your code.
If the drain has fall, it will drain, it don't need a 1/4inch per foot.
There is common sense, then there is code.

You get the idea.
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If the drain has fall, it will drain, it don't need a 1/4inch per foot.
There is common sense, then there is code.
I know a guy like that, he says, "Water will run out of a pipe that is level, too", but I always ask him, will the turds know which way to go?
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The reason I asked this question is, I was Grandfathered into all of my master licenses, i.e., HVAC, Plumbing, Gas Fitting. Recently, I was attending the Continuing Education Class, which is a requirement for license renewal in my area. During the Class, the Instructor asked how many people attending actually took an exam to get their license and how many people were Grandfathered. Turns out, there was only about 6 people out of 40 that were Grandfathered. Used to be 50/50 according to the Instructor. Truely a dying breed I guess. Anyway, the other guys in the class were making comments that we were not as good as they were because we never took the exam. Hell, I can't help it I was born at a certain time and the licensing authority offered a Grandfather Clause that I responded to. And as for codes, any work I have done that required a permit, a permit was pulled. And in 36 years of business, I never failed an inspection. I usually don't let things like that bother me, life is way too short to sweat the small stuff. But, I left that Class with some mixed feelings. That was the reason for this Thread. I was just trying to get a feel for how many of us are left in the trade and what comments you may have received from younger Plumbers.

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a few years back grand fathered sparkys. Worst thing ever done. You had some of them asking helpers for advice. imop, many peop/e were stuck digging or grunt work or limited to small jobs. They didn't get full access to the trade,to have enough knowledge to perform profesionaly on there lisgesed trade. Good example if a plumber has worked thirty years in nothing but track homes he will be very limited in his experiece.no gast iron work copper work etc. So let's say he get grand fathered in and applies to a construction co. He might be lost right. With our exam they test a lot of diffrent aspect of plumbing so when the plumber passes it shows he at least knows how to work with the material. Also he is familiar with code at leastthe important ones. Nowi ain't saying nothing raw or sour about you pershnally hell you might be a retter plumber than me. But, its a lot of the other plumber who are grandfathered that gives the good ones a bad names
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If it continues to eat at you, I suppose you could pay the exam fee and take the test. That would put it all to rest.
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California Grandfathered a bunch of plumbing contractors into solar contractors during the first big boom but only long enough to write the test. If you did not take and pass the test by a certain date it was revoked.

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And in 36 years of business, I never failed an inspection.
You either the best plumber in the world or don't get too many inspections!
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You either the best plumber in the world or don't get too many inspections!
I was thinking the same thing, my money is on not to many permit jobs
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